gilbert11 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 What does everybody think of Ovechkin’s pursuit of Gretzky’s career goals record? It’s probably inevitable but I’m actually rooting against him. Gretzky was one of a kind and I’d rather see his records stand. I didn’t get to see a lot of his games but when I did, he usually put on a show. The NHL didn’t have as much national coverage back in the 80’s and 90’s so I didn’t get to see as much of him as I would’ve liked. 1 Quote
French Collection Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 I am in Gretzky’s camp. It’s political but Ovechkin seeming to be cozy with Putin rubs me the wrong way. 2 2 Quote
Buffalonill Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 (edited) If people don't get why ovechkin is cozy with putin its pretty ridiculous Anyone here would do the same thing so their family isn't tortured Edited April 3 by Buffalonill 5 1 Quote
steveoath Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 (edited) I hope he gets it. Records are made to be broken. Edited April 3 by steveoath 3 1 1 Quote
French Collection Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 42 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: If people don't get why ovechkin is cozy with putin its pretty ridiculous Anyone here would do the same thing so their family isn't tortured I know what you are saying but I still prefer Gretzky. We are having a Russian kid stay with us for the summer. His hockey season is over but his visa is good for a while and he doesn’t want to go back. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 11 minutes ago, French Collection said: I know what you are saying but I still prefer Gretzky. We are having a Russian kid stay with us for the summer. His hockey season is over but his visa is good for a while and he doesn’t want to go back. Ov is a fun drunk half of these players are just robots and have zero personality. Lets be honest the technology that they have in the sticks now I wouldn't be surprised if someone broke OVs record after . Gretzky will always be the goat Quote
Weave Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Noone thought Gretzky’s records could be broken. I wanna see this one broken. There is little that is more entertaining generally than a good record chase. I’m not sure Ovie has 2 more good seasons in him to get it done. His skating is rapidly leaving him. But I’ll watch and hope just for the entertainment value. Regarding the next player to break it, don’t underestimate Matthews. That guy is a goal scoring machine. If he keeps it up into his mid 30s he’ll be right there. 1 Quote
SwampD Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 I hope he breaks the record as a Sabre next year while leading the team to a Cup. 2 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 9 minutes ago, SwampD said: I hope he breaks the record as a Sabre next year while leading the team to a Cup. Make it happen lol 3 1 1 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Wayne Gretzky has 61 NHL records, I 100% would like to see this broken. I really like Ovechkins personality and just because he's Russian does not taint it for me at all but that's just my opinion although I think he breaks it with or without our consent. 2 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 I hope Ovechkin gets the record for several reasons: 1) It's always fun to watch sports records fall, it shows progress and advancement (and drugs!); 2) it'll upset people, too, which is also fun; and 3) Gretzky has more assists than anyone else has career points. His ego and other records will be fine.* *Unless there are massive NFL-style-offense-only rule changes. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 I was kinda hoping he got it, but if he has to hold his team hostage to do it, as he seemed to be earlier in the year, it just cheapens the whole thing so it sorta tarnishes it. But he’s been picking it up of late Quote
Drag0nDan Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 40 minutes ago, Thorny said: I was kinda hoping he got it, but if he has to hold his team hostage to do it, as he seemed to be earlier in the year, it just cheapens the whole thing so it sorta tarnishes it. But he’s been picking it up of late He's definitely fading - but he still leads his team in goals and is a monster on the power play. The two years at 9.5M for a winger approaching 40 is probably more of a concern. But what he hurts them on the cap, he probably makes up for in tickets and merchandise etc. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 16 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said: He's definitely fading - but he still leads his team in goals and is a monster on the power play. The two years at 9.5M for a winger approaching 40 is probably more of a concern. But what he hurts them on the cap, he probably makes up for in tickets and merchandise etc. I’d kill to be a team with a terrible prospect pool full of washed up has beens (not saying OVI is that) at least we’d “have been” Quote
Drag0nDan Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: I’d kill to be a team with a terrible prospect pool full of washed up has beens (not saying OVI is that) at least we’d “have been” Right - if you aren't going to compete for a cup... at least ovechkin gives you somewhat of a reason to go. Quote
In The Buff Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Like Weave said: nobody ever thought Wayne's records would be broken. Its not really fair to compare players of different generations, where the rules & regulations were different, not to mention everything else. But perhaps a good question is whose goal totals are more impressive? Is Wayne's or Ovi's more impressive? Who had the harder path? I'd say Ovi probably had the higher degree of difficulty, getting to these totals. Either way, 2 greats of the game. Akin to the Jordan/Lebron debate. 1 Quote
Hawerchuk Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Ovi definitely had the higher degree of difficulty. Wayne would probably not put up those numbers in today's NHL even going back to the 2000s. The goalies are amazing today vs back in the 70s and 80s. One Gretzky stat that won't be broken is his Assists. 1,962 A and 2,857 Points! (not including playoffs). Now that's incredible! 1 Quote
oddoublee Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 He might break it next year. His shooting percentage is lower than normal - but he is still getting that shot off. I personally won't be shocked if he racks 45 next year. Quote
French Collection Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 He still has a good shot but he is slow now, what will his speed be in two years? Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 Ovie could retire anytime he wants, but he’s signed for two more years. He’s got eight games left this year. He needs 46 goals to tie. So basically if he’s a 20 goal scorer for the next two years, he’s got it. I think he gets there. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 6 minutes ago, Brawndo said: How long until Matthews breaks Ovi’s Record? That depends if they stop making his stick 🤔 Quote
French Collection Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 7 hours ago, Brawndo said: How long until Matthews breaks Ovi’s Record? If he breaks it I hope it is not as a Leaf. They lose 4-1 to Tampa and the story here is Matthews getting his 63rd. Quote
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