JohnC Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 8 hours ago, Hank said: Of course he's a lesser Makar. EVERYBODY is a lesser Maker. No shame in that. Using the perplexing logic that some posters advance one must conclude that Dahlin is a failure because he's no Bobby Orr. In the few games that Byram has played for us, it's evident that because teams have to account for him thus creating more space for the other players on the ice. It shouldn't be forgotten that adding him to the PP makes it much more potent. I do agree with @PerreaultForever that this new acquisition is more of an offensive defenseman than defensive defenseman. That's fine with me. Dahlin is our best defenseman. And being paired with Byram makes him even better. I don't want to get ahead of myself but this new duo could up to be one of the best pairings in the league in the not too distant future. 2 Quote
Doohicksie Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 15 minutes ago, JohnC said: this new duo could up to be one of the best pairings in the league in the not too distant future. I would word that as "this new duo could recognized as one of the best pairings in the league in the not too distant future." ...because I think they already are, people just haven't realized it yet. Even on the Avs forum on HFBoards they're saying that. 1 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, Doohickie said: I would word that as "this new duo could recognized as one of the best pairings in the league in the not too distant future." ...because I think they already are, people just haven't realized it yet. Even on the Avs forum on HFBoards they're saying that. They're very, very good. And now for the fun "sample size" we'd all be hearing about if this were at the beginning of the season: Byram's got a Corsi of 59%, pacing 82 goals, and +109 for a full season. 😇 2 Quote
JohnC Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 5 hours ago, Doohickie said: I would word that as "this new duo could recognized as one of the best pairings in the league in the not too distant future." ...because I think they already are, people just haven't realized it yet. Even on the Avs forum on HFBoards they're saying that. I believe that Colorado's front office understood how good Byram is. They are in a position to seriously compete for the Cup. They made a deal that made sense for them by acquiring Mitts to address a need in pursuit of their high aspiration for this season. When you want to receive value, you have to give up value. This was a good hockey deal for each franchise. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 50 minutes ago, JohnC said: I believe that Colorado's front office understood how good Byram is. They are in a position to seriously compete for the Cup. They made a deal that made sense for them by acquiring Mitts to address a need in pursuit of their high aspiration for this season. When you want to receive value, you have to give up value. This was a good hockey deal for each franchise. That's valid. It certainly was a "hockey trade" and I'm glad we didn't just get prospects/picks for him. That would have been a true step backwards. The winner of this trade is maybe determined by which team signs their guy long term and the success/failure relative to that contract down the road. Both players at this moment seem to "fit" into their destinations. 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 1 hour ago, JohnC said: I believe that Colorado's front office understood how good Byram is. They are in a position to seriously compete for the Cup. They made a deal that made sense for them by acquiring Mitts to address a need in pursuit of their high aspiration for this season. When you want to receive value, you have to give up value. This was a good hockey deal for each franchise. I've been reading the thread on HFBoards Avs forum about the trade. Basically both teams are benefiting because both players were playing about a line below their capabilities but are now able to play in the right spot on their new teams. They desperately needed a 2C to get serious about the playoffs and they've filled that void pretty well. Their comments about Mittsy's play mirrors what we saw in Buffalo, and he's the undisputed 2C there. They know Byram is very good, but he's not about to break into Makar - Toews. The Sabres know Mitts is good, but he's not going to leap over Tage and Dylan (at least in the long term). Both teams benefit. 2 Quote
#freejame Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 A lesser Makar = Similar in play style and skills, but to a lesser degree Less than Makar = not as good as Makar Sometimes I swear this board just wants to get riled up so they don’t read. 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 Adams was on WGR on Thursday, he mentioned he has had interest in Byram going back to prior to the Eichel Deal and would have wanted him included if Eichel was traded to Colorado Quote
Flashsabre Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 (edited) Watching the Wings and Seider they desperately need a Byram for Seider. How they get that I don’t know. Getting a quality centre is difficult. Getting a young top pairing dman is next to impossible. I like Mitts but this deal had to be made 10 out of 10 times. Edited March 16 by Flashsabre 5 Quote
SwampD Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 On 3/13/2024 at 2:40 PM, JohnC said: I respectfully but strenuously disagree with your assessment of Power. There is no question that he is not a banger but that doesn't mean (to me) that he is a soft player. As far as "could" be traded that description can be applied to every player on the team and in the league. People have different perspectives and evaluations on players. That's OK. I don’t know, man,… he’s pretty soft. He’s really young, though, so I still have hope. 2 Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 1 minute ago, SwampD said: I don’t know, man,… he’s pretty soft. He’s really young, though, so I still have hope. Beyond soft. I just don't see that dawg in the fight. 2 Quote
JohnC Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 6 hours ago, SwampD said: I don’t know, man,… he’s pretty soft. He’s really young, though, so I still have hope. I'm confident that he will in the not-too-distant future be an instrumental player for us. Don't let his more finesse style of play cloud your judgment on him. He's going to be really good. So good where a lot of organizations would make a bountiful trade to acquire him. Be patient---you will come around. 1 2 Quote
SwampD Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 8 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm confident that he will in the not-too-distant future be an instrumental player for us. Don't let his more finesse style of play cloud your judgment on him. He's going to be really good. So good where a lot of organizations would make a bountiful trade to acquire him. Be patient---you will come around. Dude. You really need to get over yourself. 1 Quote
JohnC Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 1 minute ago, SwampD said: Dude. You really need to get over yourself. I don't know what you are so aggravated over. The Dude word in your response is juvenile. You don't have to respond. I will do you a favor and not respond to you any longer. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, JohnC said: I don't know what you are so aggravated over. The Dude word in your response is juvenile. You don't have to respond. I will do you a favor and not respond to you any longer. 1 Quote
JohnC Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 Just now, K-9 said: I resolved this dude name caller's problem. I put him on my ignore list. I aim to please. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 1 minute ago, JohnC said: I resolved this dude name caller's problem. I put him on my ignore list. I aim to please. Quote
Pimlach Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JohnC said: I resolved this dude name caller's problem. I put him on my ignore list. I aim to please. John, Dude is kind of like saying “Hey man”. To some its used as a term of endearment. Edited March 17 by Pimlach 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 On 3/16/2024 at 10:20 AM, Flashsabre said: Watching the Wings and Seider they desperately need a Byram for Seider. How they get that I don’t know. Getting a quality centre is difficult. Getting a young top pairing dman is next to impossible. I like Mitts but this deal had to be made 10 out of 10 times. How is it next to impossible? If he is one we've already got 3. All you have to do is suck bad for a decade. 3 Quote
Buffalonill Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: How is it next to impossible? If he is one we've already got 3. All you have to do is suck bad for a decade. 2 Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 Too bad the Sabres are not this testy.... lol 2 Quote
Buffalonill Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 1 hour ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said: Too bad the Sabres are not this testy.... lol They're sassy though 3 Quote
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