Buffalonill Posted February 27 Author Report Posted February 27 15 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: I'd rather give up Rosen or Savoie than Kulich but I'd be okay with this. Ideally, TT, Rosen and our 2025 #1 (top 3 protected). Toss in a 3rd or lower any year if needed. I would give up any of those guys They are all just lottery tickets "could be" Who remembers bailey , baptiste 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: There was humor intended in that wording so I'm glad you got it. My reaction to that: @PerreaultForever saying, "I meant to do that" after scoring an own goal. 😉 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 58 minutes ago, Doohickie said: My reaction to that: @PerreaultForever saying, "I meant to do that" after scoring an own goal. 😉 Only if I'd bet on the other team. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 I couldn't watch the Florida game.....but could we have used someone like Brady T? Would his style of play have made a difference? Quote
inkman Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said: I couldn't watch the Florida game.....but could we have used someone like Brady T? Would his style of play have made a difference? 1000% Quote
inkman Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 If there was only a way they could kick start a rebuild… 1 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 (edited) 17 minutes ago, inkman said: If there was only a way they could kick start a rebuild… Mark of a team that's quit on the season and has guys waiting on the trade deadline. They've lost their way with the temporary coaching change as well. No wonder Tkachuk wants out. Nashville rebuild on the other hand, moving along quite nicely. Edited February 28 by PerreaultForever 1 Quote
French Collection Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Mark of a team that's quit on the season and has guys waiting on the trade deadline. They've lost their way with the temporary coaching change as well. No wonder Tkachuk wants out. Nashville rebuild on the other hand, moving along quite nicely. I would expect some major moves there. The new ownership and management team have no ties to any of these players. Like Buffalo, they expected to be in the hunt this year. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 Sounds like Jack when he wanted out before his injury There is a lot of noise surrounding Tkachuk,” said Renaud Lavoie during his column on the JiC show on Tuesday. This is noise that has existed since the start of the season. It’s a cloud that hangs over the team.” https://www.tvasports.ca/2024/02/27/les-senateurs-echangeront-ils-brady-tkachuk Quote
Flashsabre Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 If Brady is fed up with the losing and an organization that can’t figure it out he would be absolutely THRILLED to be traded to Buffalo😜 1 1 Quote
FrenchConnection44 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 35 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Sounds like Jack when he wanted out before his injury There is a lot of noise surrounding Tkachuk,” said Renaud Lavoie during his column on the JiC show on Tuesday. This is noise that has existed since the start of the season. It’s a cloud that hangs over the team.” https://www.tvasports.ca/2024/02/27/les-senateurs-echangeront-ils-brady-tkachuk Buffalo would need to be aggressive. Can’t mess around. Any 2 of their top prospects and a player or the 2024 first. Get him here, tell him you want him to be the tone setter. And then trade for another vet in the off seasons or sign a free agent (but to do that we need a veteran coach in here who has clout). However, I have to wonder whether his family would tell him to push for a trade elsewhere - given that the Sabres aren’t that different from Ottawa. While he’s under contract, he can create issues if he doesn’t want to be here. Really, though, a veteran coach that NHL players respect is what’s needed - in addition to a player or two like him. 1 Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 How many physical aggressive players are still playing in the NHL that Buffalo got rid of?? I know there has to be at least 3 or 4 Quote
Pimlach Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 (edited) So you guy all want Brady Tkachuk for the next 4 years at $8.2M???? In year 5 he will be gone, and if we cannot get this team to Cup contending status in 2 years he will be a miserable distraction in Buffalo (aka Hockey Hell). His family is hell bent on getting him and his brother together someday, or getting him to St Louis (home), or another contending team. This guy is a huge prima donna. Figures he is not wanting to finish the contract he signed with Ottawa. Edited February 28 by Pimlach Quote
CallawaySabres Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 There can't be many teams that have prospects and picks like Buffalo, but if a player has any say in where he is going to be traded, zero chance Buffalo is on that list. I would imagine that Buffalo is near dead last as a destination for anyone in their prime. 2 Quote
Getpucksdeep Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 1 hour ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said: How many physical aggressive players are still playing in the NHL that Buffalo got rid of?? I know there has to be at least 3 or 4 Name names por favor. I think sure guys like McNabb or the D on Seattle that inky loves or Risto even. But here at least from my seat we're talking about an alpha-dog in the top 6. Marchand, Tkachuk, Stamkos (has presence), Ovechkin (did it years ago), Crosby, Landeskog maybe, Tavares?. Guys that the entire league respects (save Marchand) and don't want to be line-matched against. Instead we have the opposite, Jeff Skinner. 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Getpucksdeep said: Name names por favor. I think sure guys like McNabb or the D on Seattle that inky loves or Risto even. But here at least from my seat we're talking about an alpha-dog in the top 6. Marchand, Tkachuk, Stamkos (has presence), Ovechkin (did it years ago), Crosby, Landeskog maybe, Tavares?. Guys that the entire league respects (save Marchand) and don't want to be line-matched against. Instead we have the opposite, Jeff Skinner. The CLOSEST thing in recent memory would probably be Evander Kane. He would drop the glove, win his share of them when he did (although not an ultra-heavyweight) and put up 25-30 goals for you. Not at the same level as those other guys though. Honestly, the more I think about it...go back 30 years..I can't think of anyone else that was even a 'moderately dangerous'/potential top 2 line player who would drop the gloves even a few times per year. Edited February 28 by mjd1001 Quote
Weave Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: The CLOSEST thing in recent memory would probably be Evander Kane. He would drop the glove, win his share of them when he did (although not an ultra-heavyweight) and put up 25-30 goals for you. Not at the same level as those other guys though. Honestly, the more I think about it...go back 30 years..I can't think of anyone else that was even a 'moderately dangerous'/potential top 2 line player who would drop the gloves even a few times per year. Brad May was drafted to be that guy. Didn’t work out as top 6 material unfortunately Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 1 hour ago, CallawaySabres said: There can't be many teams that have prospects and picks like Buffalo, but if a player has any say in where he is going to be traded, zero chance Buffalo is on that list. I would imagine that Buffalo is near dead last as a destination for anyone in their prime. Oh well buffalo will trade for him when he's past 30 and washed up like they always do 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Weave said: Brad May was drafted to be that guy. Didn’t work out as top 6 material unfortunately So who was the last guy they drafted with that intent with a first rounder? Zack Kassian? Even that is going back 15 years. COULD it be Cozens? He didn't do well taking on a heavyweight earlier this year, but isn't he 6'3" put on 10-20 lbs over the next couple years...get someone to teach him to fight? We know he is somewhat willing. I don't know, probably reaching here. Edited February 28 by mjd1001 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: So who was the last guy they drafted with that intent with a first rounder? Zack Kassian? Even that is going back 15 years. COULD it be Cozens? He didn't do well taking on a heavyweight earlier this year, but isn't he 6'3" put on 10-20 lbs over the next couple years...get someone to teach him to fight? We know he is somewhat willing. I don't know, probably reaching here. brendan lemieux the guy that Basically said don't draft me buffalo I won't sign . Lol Quote
Pimlach Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 56 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: The CLOSEST thing in recent memory would probably be Evander Kane. He would drop the glove, win his share of them when he did (although not an ultra-heavyweight) and put up 25-30 goals for you. Not at the same level as those other guys though. Honestly, the more I think about it...go back 30 years..I can't think of anyone else that was even a 'moderately dangerous'/potential top 2 line player who would drop the gloves even a few times per year. Kane - 14 years. 4 teams. Mostly a 20 goal guy, two seasons he hit 30. Toughness that does not translate into good defense or good team play as he is mostly a minus player over that time. Sure, he can fight but I consider him a role player and potentially cancerous in the room. Rick Dudley was a 2nd line player that could fight. Danny Gare could have been 2nd line, but he fit better in the 3rd on our team. Mike Foligno was 1st and 2nd line, he sure could fight. May was a fighter, but 3rd line. After that the glove droppers were mostly lower tier players. Quote
#freejame Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 People want big people to be physical because they are big, but that’s not the way the world works. Physical people get physical, regardless of their size. Quote
inkman Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 Just now, #freejame said: People want big people to be physical because they are big, but that’s not the way the world works. Physical people get physical, regardless of their size. The problem is the Sabres big guys don’t play that way and the Sabres small guys play to their size. The don’t touch anyone, ever. Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 24 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Kane - 14 years. 4 teams. Mostly a 20 goal guy, two seasons he hit 30. Toughness that does not translate into good defense or good team play as he is mostly a minus player over that time. Sure, he can fight but I consider him a role player and potentially cancerous in the room. Rick Dudley was a 2nd line player that could fight. Danny Gare could have been 2nd line, but he fit better in the 3rd on our team. Mike Foligno was 1st and 2nd line, he sure could fight. May was a fighter, but 3rd line. After that the glove droppers were mostly lower tier players. Speaking of Kane looks like he is going to be moved again https://thehockeywriters.com/oilers-kane-reportedly-causing-locker-room-rift/ Quote
Getpucksdeep Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 44 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Kane - 14 years. 4 teams. Mostly a 20 goal guy, two seasons he hit 30. Toughness that does not translate into good defense or good team play as he is mostly a minus player over that time. Sure, he can fight but I consider him a role player and potentially cancerous in the room. Rick Dudley was a 2nd line player that could fight. Danny Gare could have been 2nd line, but he fit better in the 3rd on our team. Mike Foligno was 1st and 2nd line, he sure could fight. May was a fighter, but 3rd line. After that the glove droppers were mostly lower tier players. Right - regarding Kane - plays the part on the ice but with all the off-ice distractions I'd suggest he is/was not respected and more importantly not galvanizing for his teammates. All those guys in my list above I feel truly lead their team to victory. Kane is more like a Lucic - lookout he's on the ice and he's big and mean and skilled and has a screw loose. We could use one or two of those too, but Tkachuk, Ovechkin, Crosby, Marchand are not that. Quote
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