JohnC Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The issue is not the stick salute. The issue is that the Buffalo Sabres players, decided that they disliked something some fans did. So they want to exact a form of RETRIBUTION, no matter how minor, to get BACK AT the fans. That's the issue, they changed something they did as a form of punishment. Again, the fact it's minor is irrelevant. Actively trying to hurt a fan or their experience is quite frankly pathetic. The players stopped something to retaliate, that's the issue. Some players disliked what some fans did. So what! They expressed their displeasure by stop doing some meaningless "stick salute". Big freaking deal! The players are allowed to express themselves just as fans are. There is nothing disrespectful about stopping a meaningless act that was in reality overdone. If that hurt some fans' feelings then tough. My recommendation to these overly sensitive and whining and sniveling crybabies is stop being a pathetic snowflake and toughen up. If you throw shiiit---then don't cry when it symbolically gets thrown back at you. 1 2 1 5 Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 29 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The issue is not the stick salute. The issue is that the Buffalo Sabres players, decided that they disliked something some fans did. So they want to exact a form of RETRIBUTION, no matter how minor, to get BACK AT the fans. That's the issue, they changed something they did as a form of punishment. Again, the fact it's minor is irrelevant. Actively trying to hurt a fan or their experience is quite frankly pathetic. The players stopped something to retaliate, that's the issue. 2 Quote
Thorner Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Buffalonill said: 16 minutes ago, JohnC said: Some players disliked what some fans did. So what! They expressed their displeasure by stop doing some meaningless "stick salute". Big freaking deal! The players are allowed to express themselves just as fans are. There is nothing disrespectful about stopping a meaningless act that was in reality overdone. If that hurt some fans' feelings then tough. My recommendation to these overly sensitive and whining and sniveling crybabies is stop being a pathetic snowflake and toughen up. If you throw shiiit---then don't cry when it symbolically gets thrown back at you. 1 5 2 Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 16 minutes ago, JohnC said: Some players disliked what some fans did. So what! They expressed their displeasure by stop doing some meaningless "stick salute". Big freaking deal! The players are allowed to express themselves just as fans are. There is nothing disrespectful about stopping a meaningless act that was in reality overdone. If that hurt some fans' feelings then tough. My recommendation to these overly sensitive and whining and sniveling crybabies is stop being a pathetic snowflake and toughen up. If you throw shiiit---then don't cry when it symbolically gets thrown back at you. It's not about that 2 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 19 minutes ago, JohnC said: Some players disliked what some fans did. So what! They expressed their displeasure by stop doing some meaningless "stick salute". Big freaking deal! The players are allowed to express themselves just as fans are. There is nothing disrespectful about stopping a meaningless act that was in reality overdone. If that hurt some fans' feelings then tough. My recommendation to these overly sensitive and whining and sniveling crybabies is stop being a pathetic snowflake and toughen up. If you throw shiiit---then don't cry when it symbolically gets thrown back at you. Yikes. 2 Quote
pi2000 Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 Just win. If you want to salute or flip off the fans after the game I don't give a *****.... just. *****. win. 1 1 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 21 minutes ago, JohnC said: Some players disliked what some fans did. So what! They expressed their displeasure by stop doing some meaningless "stick salute". Big freaking deal! The players are allowed to express themselves just as fans are. There is nothing disrespectful about stopping a meaningless act that was in reality overdone. If that hurt some fans' feelings then tough. My recommendation to these overly sensitive and whining and sniveling crybabies is stop being a pathetic snowflake and toughen up. If you throw shiiit---then don't cry when it symbolically gets thrown back at you. So many crybabies. Salutes are dumb anyways... Unless maybe for the end of the year or after a milestone like making the playoffs. Quote
JohninMinn. Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 7 hours ago, Pimlach said: Excellent comment! Now why is that? Because several key players who I and maybe some others thought were gonna continue to breakout but have regressed badly. Nobody can deny when the season started that this team seemed loaded. So loaded that we could have weathered the goaltending issues. What happened to all that talent? To me it has become painfully obvious that at this level you need more than just skill. You need heart (balls) to go along with. KO is one of the few who has balls on this team. Problem is he's just a dumb hockey player and not good with public relations. Maybe Tage,Jeff,Owen,Dylan,and Jeff will read this thread and dig a little deeper. Stick salute every win is cringy so at least something positive came out of this. I'm not the booing type but I might have a few times this year seeing this team's timidness and disregard for the fans dropping hard earned cash on their product. P.s. I really wanted to write this at first tongue in cheek. The Sabres are a terrible team in a terrible city with terrible fans and a terrible owner in a terrible arena with terrible concessions. Blow the whole thing up like the Kensington. Quote
Thorner Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Yikes. “Ball 8!” lmao Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: Just win. If you want to salute or flip off the fans after the game I don't give a *****.... just. *****. win. I've always watched this team for two things: For the crest, and for RJ. With RJ sadly gone, only the crest is left. Who the players are, what they do, what they like, don't like, etc means very little to me. You said it best. Just win. 1 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Then play for the f*cking millions of dollars ???? you sir have definitively lost the plot Like you are on an entirely different book I'm sure some of these guys would like to take their talents elsewhere. Jack did it. Quote
Hank Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Thorny said: The post win tradition could be Kyle Okposo walking out to centre ice, sucking a balloon dry of its helium and singing Volare: it’s not the validity of the ceremony itself that represents the changed variable, here. You seem unwilling (not unable) to grasp that what people are taking issue with is the *reason* for the change. I truly don’t understand how you wouldn’t understand that *intent* matters. It matters personally, it matters in a court of law, it always matters: context is always key. You, nor anyone, was arguing previously for the removal of the salute, nor advocating for its worth. But people are reacting to the *reasons why* the players decided to change it. That’s the new information. What you are merely doing is being willingly obtuse. “Who cares?” It’s enough to say “people care”. The issue here isn’t that you have to care too: it’s that you are refusing to acknowledge others’ contention isn’t about the tradition itself and its worth in a vacuum. It’s the worst form of debate, where one party won’t even acknowledge the reality of the other side: it’s gaslighting. You gaslight a lot Despite my wife's efforts, I've struggled to understand what this term means. This is the best explanation I've heard/read. For that, I thank you. 1 Quote
Cascade Youth Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 (edited) Ownership is the problem folks. This just isn’t a brand-first enterprise. In a quality organization, every single employee, from Terry to the players to the Zamboni drivers, would understand and care about what it means to wear the epees. This ain’t that. Edited February 19 by Cascade Youth 1 Quote
Thorner Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 20 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I'm sure some of these guys would like to take their talents elsewhere. Jack did it. I was under the impression our new screening process only allowed for guys who WANT to be here 18 minutes ago, Hank said: Despite my wife's efforts, I've struggled to understand what this term means. This is the best explanation I've heard/read. For that, I thank you. Honestly just feels weird without the eye-roll. Hit me up with one for old time’s sake 1 2 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: I was under the impression our new screening process only allowed for guys who WANT to be here This town has a way of beating it out of you. Ask Ryan O'Reilly. Quote
Thorner Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: This town has a way of beating it out of you. Ask Ryan O'Reilly. Beatings will continue until morale improves. Each season ticket holder upon season’s end gets to present one chosen member from the organization with one of those pens that slightly shocks you when you click it 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 9 minutes ago, Thorny said: Beatings will continue until morale improves. Each season ticket holder upon season’s end gets to present one chosen member from the organization with one of those pens that slightly shocks you when you click it We aren't happy unless we're miserable. I think the Bills prove that. Quote
Chair Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 49 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: So many crybabies. Salutes are dumb anyways... Unless maybe for the end of the year or after a milestone like making the playoffs. 1 Quote
LabattBlue Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 Very petty move by the players. Says a lot about the leadership by the players, coaches, GM & owner. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 1 Quote
Mango Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Yikes. I guess we found Jack Eichels burner. Thanks JohnC Quote
shrader Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Some players disliked what some fans did. So what! They expressed their displeasure by stop doing some meaningless "stick salute". Big freaking deal! The players are allowed to express themselves just as fans are. There is nothing disrespectful about stopping a meaningless act that was in reality overdone. If that hurt some fans' feelings then tough. My recommendation to these overly sensitive and whining and sniveling crybabies is stop being a pathetic snowflake and toughen up. If you throw shiiit---then don't cry when it symbolically gets thrown back at you. And I’m doing so, they actually did something spontaneous. Sign me up. As has been said in here by a few, the real thing the fans give a ***** about is the scoreboard. No one cares about this story if they have something like 15 more points in the season. Quote
Cascade Youth Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Some players disliked what some fans did. So what! They expressed their displeasure by stop doing some meaningless "stick salute". Big freaking deal! The players are allowed to express themselves just as fans are. There is nothing disrespectful about stopping a meaningless act that was in reality overdone. If that hurt some fans' feelings then tough. My recommendation to these overly sensitive and whining and sniveling crybabies is stop being a pathetic snowflake and toughen up. If you throw shiiit---then don't cry when it symbolically gets thrown back at you. They are employees of a business. No sane business operates the way you are describing - none. 1 Quote
Weave Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 24 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: We aren't happy unless we're miserable. I think the Bills prove that. There it is. I knew you had it in you. 1 Quote
SABRES 0311 Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 If they stop saluting because they feel it means nothing to the fans considering how bad they are, it’s one thing. If its because the fans called for their coach to be fired, it’s another. It would be a soft reaction from a soft team with a soft coaching staff. They can do what they want but should look in the mirror at how easily they get emotionally (and physically) hurt. Quote
JustOneParade Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 Late to the party and want to throw in my two cents. I have no problem with the team blowing off the post-game salute IF, IF, IF …. afterward the organizer came forward and said “we heard the chant from some of the fans and disagree with their take. This isn’t on Donnie. Consider the lack of stick raise a form of counter-protest. We support our coach and have his back”. One game and it’s over. However, if this is, or was intended to, continue then that’s a totally different story. I see it a big FU to the fans. And if it is the latter, TP or KA as leaders should be publicly addressing it. Crickets. It may be that neither cares. Or want to let it blow over. Or at its worst, are detached and neither understand the temperature of their customers 1 Quote
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