PerreaultForever Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 5:29 AM, Believer said: Okposo has to go… The Sabres need a new Captain. Expand I said that last year and got a heap of flack and derision. Ahead of my time I guess 🙂 2 1 Quote
North Buffalo Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 Okie is a good guy but his time has passed and he is not what this group needs... 3 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 20, 2024 Author Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 12:09 PM, North Buffalo said: Okie is a good guy but his time has passed and he is not what this group needs... Expand He seems like a genuinely nice guy. And yes, it’s time for (new) leadership from the player wearing the C. 2 Quote
eman Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 2:46 AM, Thorny said: This I agree with mostly. They need several significant changes/additions/upgrades: but at least we are in the spot where THAT is what we need. The GM needs to actually do it, but at least it’s reasonably possible from our standing. To start a reset would be a huge mistake. Even if we brought in a new GM, which id be fine with, he’d have to be a quick turnaround guy to a certainty. These guys are aplenty: and they aren’t all Tim Murray. Most vet GMs operate in the real NHL ie they don’t believe in the absurdity of 5 year, job security prioritized plans. A guy could come in and say, thanks for the prospect pool, and make the necessary tweaks KA apparently refuses to. Or KA could just do it Expand If KA could do it, he would have done it by now. My patience with management is done. Management and coaching is the biggest overhaul the club needs. There is talent to put on the ice. Needs the right coaching and a tougher management group. 1 1 Quote
SHAAAUGHT!!! Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 Once tickets start going for under $25 a game I’m going to go and boo every poor effort. Not because it’s my right and not because they aren’t making the playoffs for a 13th year. I’m going to go and boo poor efforts because for some reason this NHL team doesn’t have a coach willing to tell these players their effort isn’t good enough and you should be mad, you should be embarrassed, and if you don’t like it to get your ass back out there and do something about it. 1 Quote
spndnchz Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 For a one sentence in a dead newspaper it’s got a bunch of ‘pile on’ people Quote
Believer Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 (edited) On 2/20/2024 at 1:45 PM, SHAAAUGHT!!! said: Once tickets start going for under $25 a game I’m going to go and boo every poor effort. Not because it’s my right and not because they aren’t making the playoffs for a 13th year. I’m going to go and boo poor efforts because for some reason this NHL team doesn’t have a coach willing to tell these players their effort isn’t good enough and you should be mad, you should be embarrassed, and if you don’t like it to get your ass back out there and do something about it. Expand Granato is probably saying it… but in his own meek, cerebral, hard to internalize way… Poor judgment on my part… Called Granato a gym coach… Correcting it before anyone rightly calls that label mean-spirited… Granato is a developmental coach… Still needs to be replaced. Edited February 20, 2024 by Believer 1 Quote
North Buffalo Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 1:51 PM, Believer said: Granato is probably saying it… but in his own meek, cerebral, hard to internalize way… Poor judgment on my part… Called Granato a gym coach… Correcting it before anyone rightly calls that label mean-spirited… Granato is a developmental coach… Still needs to be replaced. Expand Always think of Granato as an assistant coach... good for a very young team but this team has enough young vets that it is time for a swift kick in the arse. 1 1 Quote
MISabresFan Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/19/2024 at 12:43 PM, North Buffalo said: I get Okie is a positive guy and that is great but sometimes you need a good threat, wake up call, some yelling, DG I like but someone needs to bag skate these guys... have them practice running into the boards, put some blocking dummies on the ice and do grass drills.... friggin wimpy Sabres... get TT in the weight room... grr gonna die before this group ever win anything... Expand KO -Likeable vs winning. Maybe his two-faced comments is destroying the culture and not allowing the team to move forward. Nice captain pic. Lets not salute the fans - great locker room... On top of that - coach allows it and GM does nothing. Need to empty the barn. Clean out the leftovers from the last 13 years of losing. Get rid of the stench. Anyone affiliated is out. 1 Quote
eman Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/19/2024 at 1:10 AM, PromoTheRobot said: I'm sure some of these guys would like to take their talents elsewhere. Jack did it. Expand Jack did it successrully as well! He got "lucky in Vegas!" Quote
Believer Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 2:16 PM, MISabresFan said: Need to empty the barn. Clean out the leftovers from the last 13 years of losing. Get rid of the stench. Anyone affiliated is out. Expand Agree… but that would have to be a Pegula order… and is unlikely… Odds are Pegula will keep KA… who will keep DG… and keep our roster of under performers and unproven prospects… as he listens to KA whisper… “Stick with the plan.”… Pegula will keep discounting tickets until he can’t even draw double digit attendance anymore… And the fans who attend will still boo when the team fails to make an honest effort to entertain them… Pegula will decide what kind of team the Sabres will be next season. 1 Quote
MISabresFan Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 2:39 PM, Believer said: Agree… but that would have to be a Pegula order… and is unlikely… Odds are Pegula will keep KA… who will keep DG… and keep our roster of under performers and unproven prospects… as he listens to KA whisper… “Stick with the plan.”… Pegula will keep discounting tickets until he can’t even draw double digit attendance anymore… And the fans who attend will still boo when the team fails to make an honest effort to entertain them… Pegula will decide what kind of team the Sabres will be next season. Expand Will he be a man of action or take easy street. Quote
Flashsabre Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 From Reddit, some comments from Granato from this morning’s radio interview. “We’re on our way to making the fans proud”😳🤬 -Granato talks about his experience as a scout, and always having scouted the Sabres, and wanting to take his experience to make the fans proud; he believes we're on our way to making fans proud. Jeremy points out the Harrington article about the boos, and "Fire Donny", and lack of saluting. Granato's response is that the boos hurt. They hurt because the players care. The Sabres pride themselves over playing in Buffalo and to be booed has hit them hard for that reason. No one wants to let the city down, but now it's affected them despite their best efforts to play through the boos. Things like this can't affect your play, but these guys care. 3 2 Quote
Believer Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 2:43 PM, MISabresFan said: Will he be a man of action or take easy street. Expand Hard to say… Pegula runs a billion dollar energy enterprise… and has replaced more than a few GMs and Coaches… so we know he can act decisively… Seems he’s still under the spell of Adam’s considerable charms… and not thinking like a decisive hockey owner… The fans and the Buffalo and Hockey Media are sending him signals he needs to act… In the meantime the monetary value of his franchise keeps growing… despite the team’s 13 year 900+ game playoff nonappearance… Quote
#freejame Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 3:04 PM, Believer said: Hard to say… Pegula runs a billion dollar energy enterprise… and has replaced more than a few GMs and Coaches… so we know he can act decisively… Seems he’s still under the spell of Adam’s considerable charms… and not thinking like a decisive hockey owner… The fans and the Buffalo and Hockey Media are sending him signals he needs to act… In the meantime the monetary value of his franchise keeps growing… despite the team’s 13 year 900+ game playoff nonappearance… Expand I could be wrong but I don’t think Terry runs ***** in the energy world. He got very fortunate that someone else came up with fracking and that the land he bought ended up with natural gas on it. Then he sold the land and the rights. He’s no mogul or tycoon. 2 1 Quote
inkman Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 3:36 PM, #freejame said: I could be wrong but I don’t think Terry runs ***** in the energy world. He got very fortunate that someone else came up with fracking and that the land he bought ended up with natural gas on it. Then he sold the land and the rights. He’s no mogul or tycoon. Expand Broken clock is right twice a day Quote
Pimlach Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 5:29 AM, Believer said: Okposo has to go… The Sabres need a new Captain. Expand I can get behind moving Okposo and Z. Especially Okposo’s comments about not saluting. He blew a leadership opportunity right then and there. I specifically said add vets with tread on their tires. Young vets. 1 Quote
Believer Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 3:36 PM, #freejame said: I could be wrong but I don’t think Terry runs ***** in the energy world. He got very fortunate that someone else came up with fracking and that the land he bought ended up with natural gas on it. Then he sold the land and the rights. He’s no mogul or tycoon. Expand You are right, @freejame… Pegula, a petroleum engineer by training, sold all of his Pennsylvania fraking assets… and only holds two small energy operations out West… Learned something, thanks. Quote
ExWNYer Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 3:45 PM, inkman said: Broken clock is right twice a day Expand Problem is, Pegs likely has this clock in his office... 1 Quote
Stoner Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 3:02 PM, Flashsabre said: From Reddit, some comments from Granato from this morning’s radio interview. “We’re on our way to making the fans proud”😳🤬 -Granato talks about his experience as a scout, and always having scouted the Sabres, and wanting to take his experience to make the fans proud; he believes we're on our way to making fans proud. Jeremy points out the Harrington article about the boos, and "Fire Donny", and lack of saluting. Granato's response is that the boos hurt. They hurt because the players care. The Sabres pride themselves over playing in Buffalo and to be booed has hit them hard for that reason. No one wants to let the city down, but now it's affected them despite their best efforts to play through the boos. Things like this can't affect your play, but these guys care. Expand Did he say anything about the players not stick saluting? Quote
Flashsabre Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 4:38 PM, PASabreFan said: Did he say anything about the players not stick saluting? Expand That was his response when Jeremy White brought up the story about the stick salute 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 3:02 PM, Flashsabre said: From Reddit, some comments from Granato from this morning’s radio interview. “We’re on our way to making the fans proud”😳🤬 -Granato talks about his experience as a scout, and always having scouted the Sabres, and wanting to take his experience to make the fans proud; he believes we're on our way to making fans proud. Jeremy points out the Harrington article about the boos, and "Fire Donny", and lack of saluting. Granato's response is that the boos hurt. They hurt because the players care. The Sabres pride themselves over playing in Buffalo and to be booed has hit them hard for that reason. No one wants to let the city down, but now it's affected them despite their best efforts to play through the boos. Things like this can't affect your play, but these guys care. Expand The leaders missed a golden opportunity to lead and teach. That includes the coach and the GM. 2 1 Quote
spndnchz Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 4:38 PM, PASabreFan said: Did he say anything about the players not stick saluting? Expand Dude let it go Quote
North Buffalo Posted February 20, 2024 Report Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 5:54 PM, spndnchz said: Dude let it go Expand Nope and he shouldnt because it's symptomatic of the problem... coaches and leaders are affable and dont know when to be nasty and push harder than routine. 3 Quote
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