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Anyway, it seems there were still two outcomes possible: Ball rolls out of bounds after the play's been called dead (tuddy) and Texans get ball at 20, or ball comes to rest in end zone after the play's been called dead (tuddy) and Jets get ball at ~1. 

Nobody was ever getting an opportunity to fall on that ball (whistle blown) and the refs would not have been able to pick up the ball in error as it lay in the end zone (rather, they signaled a TD in error).

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8 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Here's what I was talking about. My question was

And this answer came (especially the bolded).

I thought K-9 missed the thrust of my question - hence my "huh?"

The other answers upthread confirmed that something would have happened if, instead of rolling out of the end zone, the ball had laid still in the end zone and then been picked up (in error) by the refs.

That is: Rather than the Texans getting the ball on the 20, the Jets would have had it on the ~1. 

Am I missing something?

Nope. I'm asking: What if, instead of rolling out of the end zone, that ball had come to rest in the end zone, and was then picked up (in error (?)) by the refs.

I'm given to understand that the ruling would have been different than what actually happened last night.

Why would the refs pick up a live ball they ruled was a fumble? Perhaps we should ask Gene Saratore? 🙂

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14 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Why would the refs pick up a live ball they ruled was a fumble? Perhaps we should ask Gene Saratore? 🙂

Why not ask Blandino (who actually knows the rules) or the other guy (Pererria?).  Steratore is usually good for getting it wrong.

As to why the refs would pick up a live ball they'd ruled a fumble?  If no player from either team goes to pick it up, they will blow the play dead.  (I.e., if both teams treat it like a dead ball, the refs will deem it to be a dead ball.)  And, at that point, the ball goes back to the Jest at the point they last had possession of it.

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41 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Why not ask Blandino (who actually knows the rules) or the other guy (Pererria?).  Steratore is usually good for getting it wrong.

As to why the refs would pick up a live ball they'd ruled a fumble?  If no player from either team goes to pick it up, they will blow the play dead.  (I.e., if both teams treat it like a dead ball, the refs will deem it to be a dead ball.)  And, at that point, the ball goes back to the Jest at the point they last had possession of it.

How long before they blow the play dead? Is there a rule for that? This might be the mother of unlikely scenarios. But I'm glad @That Aud Smellfinally has closure. 

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49 minutes ago, Taro T said:

As to why the refs would pick up a live ball they'd ruled a fumble?  If no player from either team goes to pick it up, they will blow the play dead.  (I.e., if both teams treat it like a dead ball, the refs will deem it to be a dead ball.)  And, at that point, the ball goes back to the Jest at the point they last had possession of it.

I think this is right.

Also, if the refs on the field had managed to rule it a fumble in real time, there would be no TD signal, no whistles. Then the refs would be standing around, conspicuously, as the ball skittered to a stop in the end zone. I think players on the field would pick up on that and pounce. If they didn't, the refs would give it a few beats and then blow the play dead -- returning the ball to the team that fumbled it.

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3 hours ago, Idemo Buffalo said:


Aaron Rodgers just beat a team we couldn't beat.  Threw for 3TD's.  Looks like my take is a lot more credible now.  😀

Rodgers probably won't beat the Bills on December 29, but I won't be shocked if they are on a 7 game winning streak when they get to Orchard Park. Dangerous team if we are fighting for the #1 seed and they are fighting for their playoff life.

 

 

I have NO love for A-a-ron ... but if the Texans had played like THAT when the Bills played them ... I will just refer you to the Seattle game for the likely outcome. Texans looked like a 2-15 team in that game.

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15 minutes ago, ska-T Chitown said:

I have NO love for A-a-ron ... but if the Texans had played like THAT when the Bills played them ... I will just refer you to the Seattle game for the likely outcome. Texans looked like a 2-15 team in that game.

People forget Aaron Rodgers missed an entire year with an Achilles. It is not shocking it took him half a season to round into form. Jets have a real shot to put together 6 or 7 wins in a row. I won't be shocked if they get a wild card spot.

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8 hours ago, Idemo Buffalo said:

People forget Aaron Rodgers missed an entire year with an Achilles. It is not shocking it took him half a season to round into form. Jets have a real shot to put together 6 or 7 wins in a row. I won't be shocked if they get a wild card spot.

Pshh, he made it back in 6 weeks, with cayenne pepper, the tears of kittens and a mix of sodium bicarb and *****. Instant youth right there. He's an NFL shaman, aren't you aware!?!? 

 

Dude, he's cooked, that team is cooked. And I'm here to see it all 

 

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18 hours ago, K-9 said:

How long before they blow the play dead? Is there a rule for that? This might be the mother of unlikely scenarios. But I'm glad @That Aud Smellfinally has closure. 

Don't believe there's an exact time spelled out.  It's when the ball is stationary and nobody is making an effort to make a play on it.  

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On 11/1/2024 at 2:57 PM, ska-T Chitown said:

I have NO love for A-a-ron ... but if the Texans had played like THAT when the Bills played them ... I will just refer you to the Seattle game for the likely outcome. Texans looked like a 2-15 team in that game.

I really don't understand the defense of Rodgers at this point. That Jets team was lost until Will Anderson got injured. Once he was gone, the Jets offense had a chance. Throw in no Nico Collins and no Diggs (and granted, he's a me-first prima donna, but he's still a good possession receiver at this point) and that the Vikings and Packers laid out the blueprint on how to defend a young QB in Stroud and...  great, the Jets got one on a home game on a short week against a struggling and very-injured team. They're still garbage with poor washed-up QB play.

Hope the Bills win today: avenge Beebe, Kenneth Davis, Paup, and Lofton!

 

 

 

 

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