Buffalo Bills 2024 Thread

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

The play that made the Hail Mary possible was the play before that. The Bears simply conceded the out pattern with no defender within 20 yards of the receiver. Just a complete brain fart by the Bears coaches. 

I was listening to a couple of sports radio stations commenting on the Hail Mary pass. In those separate forums they made the same point that the critical play that set up the game winning pass was the previous pass that you referred to. You may not be aware of it but at times you are astute and perspicacious. 👋

[nfreeman]

1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said:

I think McDermott is a top-5 NFL HC when it comes to preparation. And I think he's a bottom-5 NFL HC when it comes to crucial, situational in-game decisions.

Proverbial gun to my head, I don't think I'd move on from him in favour of some shiny new OC boy genius. His consistency is remarkable. Making the playoffs always means you have a chance to win the Super Bowl. It's just a few games after all. Look at the Manning-led Giants teams.

But ... for so long as the Bills have Allen, I will feel the pull of that shiny new OC move.

McD can coach my team as long as he wants.

He's going to get the Bills to the promised land.  Maybe even this year.

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Nice try but no. Next you're going to tell me their owner drew up the Hail Mary.

You are so very much off the mark. I live in the DC/MD area. The previous owner was a morally deficient fool who significantly meddled in the football operation and surrounded himself with yes men. As long as this shyster continued to own this franchise it would never be able to become the relevant franchise that it once was. It not only lost its fanbase, and even the minority partners were determined to disassociate themselves from this stenchful character. 

This was a conniving owner who bought outdated airline peanuts in bulk and then sold them at the stadium. He also cheated his fellow owners by manipulating the revenue figures on game days. This despicable human also paid out money to settle with women for inappropriate conduct. Of course he had non-disclosure clauses in the settlements. 

So when it comes to that former owner you know little compared to what I know about him. 

You may not be aware of the obvious but good ownership is a factor in the success of a franchise; and conversely bad ownership is a factor in a systemically unsuccessful franchise. 

[Flashsabre]

Man Jets fans and prognosticators are going through it right now.😁 Listened to a few of them and reality has set in.

[SwampD]

12 minutes ago, JohnC said:

You are so very much off the mark. I live in the DC/MD area. The previous owner was a morally deficient fool who significantly meddled in the football operation and surrounded himself with yes men. As long as this shyster continued to own this franchise it would never be able to become the relevant franchise that it once was. It not only lost its fanbase, and even the minority partners were determined to disassociate themselves from this stenchful character. 

This was a conniving owner who bought outdated airline peanuts in bulk and then sold them at the stadium. He also cheated his fellow owners by manipulating the revenue figures on game days. This despicable human also paid out money to settle with women for inappropriate conduct. Of course he had non-disclosure clauses in the settlements. 

So when it comes to that former owner you know little compared to what I know about him. 

You may not be aware of the obvious but good ownership is a factor in the success of a franchise; and conversely bad ownership is a factor in a systemically unsuccessful franchise. 

So you are agreeing with Promo about the Sabres, then.

Edited October 28 by SwampD

[JohnC]

15 minutes ago, SwampD said:

So you are agreeing with Promo about the Sabres, then.

Terry Pegula has been a poor hockey owner. Check the record if you don't believe me.  If he handled the hockey operation in the same manner that he did with the football franchise, this franchise would have had an immensely more successful record in our recent history. 

[Taro T]

2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

I think McDermott is a top-5 NFL HC when it comes to preparation. And I think he's a bottom-5 NFL HC when it comes to crucial, situational in-game decisions.

Proverbial gun to my head, I don't think I'd move on from him in favour of some shiny new OC boy genius. His consistency is remarkable. Making the playoffs always means you have a chance to win the Super Bowl. It's just a few games after all. Look at the Manning-led Giants teams.

But ... for so long as the Bills have Allen, I will feel the pull of that shiny new OC move.

Which is a pretty good description of his mentor Andy Reid in his Iggles stint.

Reid got a LOT better at the in-game stuff through the years.  No reason McDermott can't improve in them as well.  (And, he really should, if he doesn't already, have a "clock/situational" expert on his coaching staff to help him avoid stuff like the final Jest drive of the 1st half of that game in the Meadowlands (or whatever the heck they call their new mausoleum).)

[Doohicksie]

45 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Man Jets fans and prognosticators are going through it right now.😁 Listened to a few of them and reality has set in.

They thought an old has-been QB could lead them to the promised land but it takes a lot more than that to build a team.  I could almost go so far as to say Rogers has held up his part of the bargain but he just doesn't have a team around him that is capable of winning.

[K-9]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

I was listening to a couple of sports radio stations commenting on the Hail Mary pass. In those separate forums they made the same point that the critical play that set up the game winning pass was the previous pass that you referred to. You may not be aware of it but at times you are astute and perspicacious. 👋

Proud to be a stute. The world needs more stutes. 

[Doohicksie]

19 minutes ago, Taro T said:

3 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

I think McDermott is a top-5 NFL HC when it comes to preparation. And I think he's a bottom-5 NFL HC when it comes to crucial, situational in-game decisions.

Which is a pretty good description of his mentor Andy Reid in his Iggles stint.

Reid got a LOT better at the in-game stuff through the years.  No reason McDermott can't improve in them as well.  (And, he really should, if he doesn't already, have a "clock/situational" expert on his coaching staff to help him avoid stuff like the final Jest drive of the 1st half of that game in the Meadowlands (or whatever the heck they call their new mausoleum).)

One thing that hasn't been brought up in this discussion is in-game adjustments.  I would say McClappy is better than most at that.  A disastrous opening drive or two doesn't mean the Bills are out of the game.  By the second quarter he's often made adjustments to stabilize play and during halftime he frequently makes better adjustments than the opposing HC.

[Taro T]

14 minutes ago, Doohicksie said:

One thing that hasn't been brought up in this discussion is in-game adjustments.  I would say McClappy is better than most at that.  A disastrous opening drive or two doesn't mean the Bills are out of the game.  By the second quarter he's often made adjustments to stabilize play and during halftime he frequently makes better adjustments than the opposing HC.

Yep.  The Bills might be really bad at decision making in the final minute of a game, but they probably have the best 3Q record of any team in the Allen era.  And that, more often than not leads to them having leads at the end that are too big for bad last minute decision making to factor in.  

Would be really nice to see them with the less banged up D in the playoffs for once so that propensity to let teams off the hook late in playoff games gets stomped out.  If Milano comes back in December, we might actually see that happen.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, SwampD said:

So you are agreeing with Promo about the Sabres, then.

There is a never-ending campaign to remove Terry Pegula as owner. 

Edited October 28 by PromoTheRobot

[That Aud Smell]

50 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Which is a pretty good description of his mentor Andy Reid in his Iggles stint.

Reid got a LOT better at the in-game stuff through the years.  No reason McDermott can't improve in them as well.  (And, he really should, if he doesn't already, have a "clock/situational" expert on his coaching staff to help him avoid stuff like the final Jest drive of the 1st half of that game in the Meadowlands (or whatever the heck they call their new mausoleum).)

Good point. The deficiency is not something that can't be mitigated or perhaps even mostly eliminated as you grow and learn. And people can say what they will about McDermott, but that guy puts his money where his mouth is when it comes to "growth mindset."

26 minutes ago, Doohicksie said:

One thing that hasn't been brought up in this discussion is in-game adjustments.  I would say McClappy is better than most at that.  A disastrous opening drive or two doesn't mean the Bills are out of the game.  By the second quarter he's often made adjustments to stabilize play and during halftime he frequently makes better adjustments than the opposing HC.

This is also a good point. And I feel it's something that has evolved over his tenure. I can't readily count the number of games in the past ~30 regular season games where I've said, or agreed with someone saying, "the Bills really made good in-game adjustments."

Talk about bottom-5 in his era, I think Marv may have never figured out how to really adjust a plan on the fly.

Edited October 28 by That Aud Smell

[SwampD]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

There is a never-ending campaign to remove Terry Pegula as owner. 

I'm pretty sure that I signed the petition.

[SwampD]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

Terry Pegula has been a poor hockey owner. Check the record if you don't believe me.  If he handled the hockey operation in the same manner that he did with the football franchise, this franchise would have had an immensely more successful record in our recent history. 

I agree.

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

Proud to be a stute. The world needs more stutes. 

You are only listening to what you want to hear. I said ass-tutes, with the accent on the first sylable. 

[calti]

McD  has Brady now. That helps. 

And he is getting slightly better  in quick game decisions involving the clock etc.

Great motivator,great leader,good defensive guy.

I almost trust him.         grade B-

[#freejame]

19 minutes ago, calti said:

McD  has Brady now. That helps. 

And he is getting slightly better  in quick game decisions involving the clock etc.

Great motivator,great leader,good defensive guy.

I almost trust him.         grade B-

An issue with good head coaches with a defense background is that any offensive coordinator they develop a strong relationship with becomes a head coaching candidate. 

Should McDermott leave for whatever reasons, I think it’s very important our head coach is offensive minded and has a vision for Allen. Eliminating the constant turnover will help him age well. 

[Idemo Buffalo]

3 hours ago, JohnC said:

Terry Pegula has been a poor hockey owner. Check the record if you don't believe me.  If he handled the hockey operation in the same manner that he did with the football franchise, this franchise would have had an immensely more successful record in our recent history. 

Football is a lot easier to turn around.  The draft gives you NFL ready players.  Not an excuse for bad decision with the Sabres, but the BIlls were a much easier franchise to turn around. The Sabres are loaded for years and finally have the missing piece, the right coach.

[#freejame]

The Bills had a playoff drought longer than the Sabres have had. Let’s pump the breaks on football is easier to turn around than hockey. 

[PerreaultForever]

Fess up. Which one of you is this guy?

 

[LabattBlue]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

There is a never-ending campaign to remove Terry Pegula as owner. 

…I am a proud member of the club! 😂

[Flashsabre]

https://www.tsn.ca/nfl/rams-cb-tre-davious-white-has-permission-to-seek-trade-1.2196782

[Demoted]

 

[calti]

5 hours ago, #freejame said:

An issue with good head coaches with a defense background is that any offensive coordinator they develop a strong relationship with becomes a head coaching candidate. 

Should McDermott leave for whatever reasons, I think it’s very important our head coach is offensive minded and has a vision for Allen. Eliminating the constant turnover will help him age well. 

I agree