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Bills won.  Ugly win is still a win.  This is a game they didn’t seem up for.   Good wake up to get them to refocus. 
 

Beat the Jets at home next Sunday and they can clinch the 2 seed at a minimum.   If KC clinches the 1 next week then the Bills can rest their starters in the finale at NE.  

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11 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

I'll take the Lombardi over the MVP. It may not be a popular opinion but I don't care who wins the MVP 

You do know that they're not mutually exclusive, right? 😜

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10 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Bills won.  Ugly win is still a win.  This is a game they didn’t seem up for.   Good wake up to get them to refocus. 
 

Beat the Jets at home next Sunday and they can clinch the 2 seed at a minimum.   If KC clinches the 1 next week then the Bills can rest their starters in the finale at NE.  

KC plays on Christmas day and some key match ups on Saturday before Bills play on Sunday.  My gut tells me Bills are on a crash course with the Bengals...

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27 minutes ago, MISabresFan said:

KC plays on Christmas day and some key match ups on Saturday before Bills play on Sunday.  My gut tells me Bills are on a crash course with the Bengals...

I don't think so 

Bengals have to win out... Ok, fair 

But indy would have to lose one of their last renaming against two horrible teams (Giants, Jags) 

And Miami would have to lose one to 2 bad teams as well. 

And... The Broncos would have to lose both (one of those against the Bengals) 

I think it's probably Denver if we stay the 2 seed or Indy most likely. 

Also not sure we hold on to the 2 seed if we play like yesterday, Baltimore can catch us and they own the tiebreaker. In theory we should butttt you never know. 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

Also not sure we hold on to the 2 seed if we play like yesterday, Baltimore can catch us and they own the tiebreaker. In theory we should butttt you never know. 

 

 

Keep in mind that this requires losing to both the Jets and the Patriots. 

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Post game interviews from Allen and others indicate that the Bills had a borderline preseason game plan for the Patriots. They're looking to keep their remaining good sh1t under wraps until the playoffs. I credit those statements based on how the game unfolded, looked from our perch in the 300s.

I also respect that the team isn't organizing things in order to get Allen an MVP. They're aiming for the Lombardi. Fingers crossed.

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At many times during the 2nd half yesterday, the Bills D had 3 guys on the field that played for local UB. 

 BTW, Elam and Spector playing any snaps are a concern. Opposition just eats them alive. 

Pats played a great 1st Q to take that early lead. I give them some credit. 

Looks like the #2 seed is our finish. I would have been thrilled with that prediction in the summer, when a large majority of the media was stating the Bills were on the decline and no longer a playoff team. Swing and a miss. Yet the D has to get healthy and find a better plan for the post-season.  

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22 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Post game interviews from Allen and others indicate that the Bills had a borderline preseason game plan for the Patriots. They're looking to keep their remaining good sh1t under wraps until the playoffs. I credit those statements based on how the game unfolded, looked from our perch in the 300s.

I also respect that the team isn't organizing things in order to get Allen an MVP. They're aiming for the Lombardi. Fingers crossed.

Meh. Until I see this defense shut down another team I'm not going to get too hyped up. Injuries or not they all need to play better than they are. The offense does not worry me. The defense scares the hell out of me.  They are terrible.

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54 minutes ago, LTS said:

Meh. Until I see this defense shut down another team I'm not going to get too hyped up. Injuries or not they all need to play better than they are. The offense does not worry me. The defense scares the hell out of me.  They are terrible.

The defense is not going to shut down teams. They simply are not good enough anymore to do that.

Even when they were good enough to shut teams down and were the number 1 or 2 defense in the NFL, in the playoffs it didn't matter and they got torched. This happened multiple seasons.

As they are built right now on D, they survive on takeaways and forcing FG once teams get into the red zone(which has not been working lately).  They are very poor at 3rd down D, ranking 26th in the NFL at allowing teams to convert.  That's one of the main reasons they struggle. Teams convert 3rd downs far too easily against them, even on 3rd and long.

 

 

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13 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Bills won.  Ugly win is still a win.  This is a game they didn’t seem up for.   Good wake up to get them to refocus. 
 

Beat the Jets at home next Sunday and they can clinch the 2 seed at a minimum.   If KC clinches the 1 next week then the Bills can rest their starters in the finale at NE.  

 

Division games are never easy. Even the Kelly led Bills had nightmare games against the Patriots who were similarly terrible back then as they are now. Andre Tippett and Ronnie Lippett used to be Kelly's personal Boogiemen on defense. 

Lots of ugly 13-9, 16-13 type games against them.

Bills didn't seem up for it after the Lions game and also didn't want to "show their hand" too much with plays according to Allen so they basically ran things that everyone knows they run a lot which obviously makes it easier to stop, especially when you are not executing particularly well to begin with.

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5 hours ago, Big Guava said:

The defense is not going to shut down teams. They simply are not good enough anymore to do that.

Even when they were good enough to shut teams down and were the number 1 or 2 defense in the NFL, in the playoffs it didn't matter and they got torched. This happened multiple seasons.

As they are built right now on D, they survive on takeaways and forcing FG once teams get into the red zone(which has not been working lately).  They are very poor at 3rd down D, ranking 26th in the NFL at allowing teams to convert.  That's one of the main reasons they struggle. Teams convert 3rd downs far too easily against them, even on 3rd and long.

 

 

I am aware of their defensive style right now. As you say, in the past playoffs, when they had a higher ranked defense they got torched. Okay, so should that make me feel MORE at ease about the current defense which relies on luck and hope?  It doesn't. 

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5 hours ago, LTS said:

I am aware of their defensive style right now. As you say, in the past playoffs, when they had a higher ranked defense they got torched. Okay, so should that make me feel MORE at ease about the current defense which relies on luck and hope?  It doesn't. 

No...the only thing that might help is Babich calling plays instead of McD...

Perhaps he will be more aggressive during the playoffs and not passive.

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1 hour ago, Big Guava said:

No...the only thing that might help is Babich calling plays instead of McD...

Perhaps he will be more aggressive during the playoffs and not passive.

no matter who is coaching, interference penalties and bad tackling won't change.

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8 hours ago, LTS said:

I am aware of their defensive style right now. As you say, in the past playoffs, when they had a higher ranked defense they got torched. Okay, so should that make me feel MORE at ease about the current defense which relies on luck and hope?  It doesn't. 

They don’t have a lot of talent. This was a rebuilding year. It is what it is. At 12–3 we are playing with house money. Fingers crossed that Josh remains superhuman and the ball bounces our way.

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6 hours ago, SDS said:

They don’t have a lot of talent. This was a rebuilding year. It is what it is. At 12–3 we are playing with house money. Fingers crossed that Josh remains superhuman and the ball bounces our way.

This is the year. I don't know, I just feel it.

The defense has taken the ball away in many games at key moments, I feel they aren't just so-so, they are younger, but they look hungry. There is no mistaking the DL needs to pressure to ease the growing pains of that younger DB corps, but......I don't know SDS, I just feel it, this is our year.

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Anyone but into the conspiracy of the super bowl logo colors picking the teams/winner? 

Cause LIX is very red 😕

However the Beyonce promos for halftime show her in a cowboy hat rocking red and blue a lot.... So there's hope Beyonce> Swift all day. 

I would like to hope the Chiefs won't do it, because it's just too much, but I honestly don't think we're gonna do it, not with our coaches and not with our team relying solely on JA for 4 straight weeks. 

Prove me wrong Bills! 

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