PromoTheRobot Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Just now, TheAud said: Speaking of injury prone... Guy isn't bulletproof. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Get well soon. Ryan Johnson, the next man up. Novikov get your suitcase ready. I feel a visit to Buffalo is coming. 4 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Get well soon. Ryan Johnson, the next man up. Novikov get your suitcase ready. I feel a visit to Buffalo is coming. Nope.....Bryson 1 1 1 1 Quote
shrader Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 So one nagging injury that probably needed this for most of the season? 2 Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Can this season just end . What a horrible year 1 3 Quote
Thorner Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) On 10/12/2022 at 4:53 PM, Thorny said: Regardless of what the singular Mike Peca was paid decade ago, the fact remains that it’s points that pay. The amount of value the Sabres realistically stand to gain here is negligible. Samuelsson was not going to realistically earn more than a 30 mil deal anytime soon. This deal is about their analytics evaluation, but they are coating it in messaging about “we will take care of you”. In the end, it comes to the same thing: if he’s good, the deal is fine. I personally just don’t think the small amount we might very unlikely potentially lose by waiting is worth jumping the gun to get either the value they seek or the vibes they wish to stoke. You are conflating two things - the idea of locking up a player before they’ve established what their prime output is, and locking up a player before committing a full NHL season to record. Perhaps it is a sliding spectrum, but there’s a fair bit of separation between the two players you listed, who both had 2 successful NHL seasons under their belt, and Samuelsson, who had .5 of one. As mentioned, the theory makes sense. But there are degrees of intensity here and the Sabres are certainly REALLY pushing the envelope here re: limited data Called it Edited February 4 by Thorny 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, Thorny said: Called it I still think he is worth his contract. It's a fair and reasonable contract for both. Stuff happens in hockey. Also, you think the Sabre PR department would proof the post and make sure to spell his name right. Mickey Mouse operation, at best. 6 1 Quote
Thorner Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: I still think he is worth his contract. It's a fair and reasonable contract for both. Stuff happens in hockey. Also, you think the Sabre PR department would proof the post and make sure to spell his name right. Mickey Mouse operation, at best. It’s worth it: at best that was always my point What would samuelsson cost on a long term deal today? He certainly wouldn’t cost more than what we paid the messaging itself was as much the endgame as any potential future value. Maybe they even knew that, but it’s backfired so far. As of now there has been zero justification for that contract Edited February 4 by Thorny 1 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Maybe this will force Adams to finally make a trade for a top 4 dman ??? crack myself up there 3 Quote
Pimlach Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 22 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Get well soon. Ryan Johnson, the next man up. Novikov get your suitcase ready. I feel a visit to Buffalo is coming. Really? I mean I get that he is our only prospect in the AHL now that Ryan Johnson is up, but man this seems rushed. I suspect we get more Bryson - or maybe Clague/Stillman. 1 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 33 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Per Sabres PR Who the F is "Samelsson"? Spelling used to be important. Even the PR/Communication department is crap. 4 4 2 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Thorny said: It’s worth it: at best that was always my point What would samuelsson cost on a long term deal today? He certainly wouldn’t cost more than what we paid the messaging itself was as much the endgame as any potential future value. Maybe they even knew that, but it’s backfired so far. As of now there has been zero justification for that contract I have removed the beer thingie I sent you after your edit. What are you talking about in your last paragraph ?? 5 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Who the F is "Samelsson"? Spelling used to be important. Even the PR/Communication department is crap. 12 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: I still think he is worth his contract. It's a fair and reasonable contract for both. Stuff happens in hockey. Also, you think the Sabre PR department would proof the post and make sure to spell his name right. Mickey Mouse operation, at best. Indeed. (insert winkie thingie here) Edited February 4 by Sabres Fan in NS Quote
Second Line Center Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Trading him. Done with this. Best ability is reliability. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: I have removed the beer thingie I sent you after your edit. What are you talking about in your last paragraph ?? Indeed. (insert winkie thingie here) you bastage 1 Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Really? I mean I get that he is our only prospect in the AHL now that Ryan Johnson is up, but man this seems rushed. I suspect we get more Bryson - or maybe Clague/Stillman. Stillman isn’t a realistic option. He’s been pretty bad in Rochester. 1 1 Quote
Thorner Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) @Sabres Fan in NS I meant that the contract hasn’t been justified yet: there isn’t a viable reason why we’d want that commitment right now. If we could take the deal back, we should: we would avoid being locked in long term to a player we have literally no need to sign to a risky contract there’s no value to gain. I was right, I’m sorry. He’s not worth a 7 year deal right now - we aren’t gaining anything, there’s no underpay, he’s at best accurately paid, and we could have that without the needless commitment because he’s never going to earn more than a 30 million dollar contract there’s never been a player more accurately described as a “concept”. Remember he was our “mvp” last year? We are significantly worse by record with him in the lineup this year he’s JAG and he set the standard for JAG contracts. I don’t have much inclination to beat around the bush here because I’m objectively correct: it’s not a good contract, and I’ve been saying it for years. Why back down now Edited February 4 by Thorny 1 Quote
kas23 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Can’t say that I’m at all surprised. Just wish he wasn’t getting top 4 money. Should be getting 5/6 money and not relied upon to play a full season. 2 Quote
Cascade Youth Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 23 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Who the F is "Samelsson"? Spelling used to be important. Even the PR/Communication department is crap. I’ve never seen a product punish its own customers as much as Pegula’s Sabres. 1 1 Quote
Thorner Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said: I’ve never seen a product punish its own customers as much as Pegula’s Sabres. Cody Rhodes fans might disagree Quote
Scottysabres Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Well, if any season is a good one to fix a body ailment, this one is one of the 13 to get it done I guess. Heal up Muel, come back ready to roll next season. 1 1 Quote
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