PerreaultForever Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 13 minutes ago, JohnC said: Also, points in the standings. Your record is your record. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 17 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said: Taro- You're disagreeing with me when I'm asking a question? Seriously, what do we know? You are correct, here, imo All the “reactions” a poster receives get tabulated and recorded, obviously looking at one’s profile I think people generally take the big red X as a negative ala “I disagree.” It’s obvious what Taro meant but given that, again, it’s added to the rest of the total same as always, doesn’t make sense to dish out an X in that way. I don’t know how much, if at all, people care about the Reactions but they are used a lot so I’d hazard to say at least somewhat 1 Quote
Thorner Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) No Quinn update yet, eh? green check for yes red x for no Thumbs up for yes and it’s good news thumbs down for yes and it’s bad news Cup emoji for Quinn has been dealt for an even better player crying emoji for Quinn has been dealt for an even worse player vomit emoji if Quinn has lost his love of the game eye-roll for me wasting your time Edited January 29 by Thorny Edit - Shocked emoji if you feel I’m not very thorough 1 1 3 1 Quote
shrader Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Wouldn't it be better to just use a tape measure? Yard stick 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 51 minutes ago, shrader said: Yard stick Metre stick for the extra 3.3701 inches. Trust me. 1 hour ago, Thorny said: No Quinn update yet, eh? green check for yes red x for no Thumbs up for yes and it’s good news thumbs down for yes and it’s bad news Cup emoji for Quinn has been dealt for an even better player crying emoji for Quinn has been dealt for an even worse player vomit emoji if Quinn has lost his love of the game eye-roll for me wasting your time Sent you beer since you are missing one. Quote
#freejame Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 I give green checks to people who I agree with but not want to get that sweet, sweet dopamine hit of a +1 to. How will I ever catch up if they keep pulling ahead? 1 Quote
Norcal Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Thorny said: No Quinn update yet, eh? green check for yes red x for no Thumbs up for yes and it’s good news thumbs down for yes and it’s bad news Cup emoji for Quinn has been dealt for an even better player crying emoji for Quinn has been dealt for an even worse player vomit emoji if Quinn has lost his love of the game eye-roll for me wasting your time 🙏 Quote
Two or less Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Mr Peabody said: There’s no sample size of VO playing for a better team. We’ve had a number of players leave and improve their play under different systems. I’m thinking the league looks at him and sees a cannon shot and weak points they can improve. A third line with a couple of strong forwards who play D would be worth a shot. A player that refuses to play any kind of defense and one of the slowest players in the league who is one dimensional. I know Reinhart, Eichel and Montour caught fire after leaving but don’t think that will apply to our entire roster, essp Vic. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 8 week recovery for Quinn after he had surgery today. Edited January 29 by LGR4GM 1 2 Quote
French Collection Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: 8 week recovery for Quinn after he had surgery today. S**t, get well kid. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Good news is that he will have a full offseason to prepare for next season bad luck with injuries for the kid. I still have no doubt he is a "core" player for the Sabres hoping to see Kulich, been in a scoring slump since the WJC but rather see him than #71 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Two or less said: A player that refuses to play any kind of defense and one of the slowest players in the league who is one dimensional. I know Reinhart, Eichel and Montour caught fire after leaving but don’t think that will apply to our entire roster, essp Vic. I'm not saying he is going to be worth much on the open market, but one of the slowest players in the league is just not true. The NHL edge tracking site is up and there are two ways to measure him (or anyone else), I brought this up in another thread: -In terms of 'pure speed' top speed hit, he is middle-of-the-pack on the Sabres. Top speed not even close to Tuch or Zemgus (the top 2 on the team), but better/faster than Benson, Okposo, Greenway, Quinn, and most of the D-men. -In terms of how fast he PLAYS, they have a metric that measures that also, how many times/how often a player has 'speed burts' where they go over 20mph for a few seconds. Not just top speed, but how many times they use their speed. VO Isn't good, he is 'below average' on the team, but not at the bottom. So in terms of pure skating speed, he is average on this team. In terms of how often he 'skates fast', below average but not at the bottom of the leage. Put those 2 things together and you get an "OK" or "slightly below average" guy in terms of speed, but no where near one of the slowest in the league. He has some problems and holes in his game. Lack of high end speed or 'fast play' is one of them, but its no where near being close to the bottom of the team, or the league. Edited January 30 by mjd1001 1 2 Quote
mjd1001 Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Good news is that he will have a full offseason to prepare for next season bad luck with injuries for the kid. I still have no doubt he is a "core" player for the Sabres hoping to see Kulich, been in a scoring slump since the WJC but rather see him than #71 I'm almost there with you on this, and I wasn't before. He had a 'decent' and 'encouraging' rookie year. That was after he played great at the end of his stint in Rochester. Got hurt, came back off of a tough injury and immediately showed progress from last year...in a very small sample size playing at about a 25 goal, 60 point pace with 3rd line minutes. That may not be enough to PROVE he is or should be a core player....but very little has been show to say he shouldn't. 1 Quote
Norcal Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 58 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: 8 week recovery for Quinn after he had surgery today. Yeah this sucks 1 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 So if everything goes correct and he is able to play after 8 weeks, he'll be around for maybe the last 8-10 games of the year. Quote
FrenchConnection44 Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 With the Quinn injury, I think the Sabres need to target next year, as opposed to trading away assets for short term benefits for this season. Barring a 10 game win streak, I don’t see it. But I would give up vets not in long term plans. But not for draft picks. We need some talent close to emerging at the NHL level. Quote
Second Line Center Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 Sounds like a tightrope procedure imo. Ankle maybe. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 Just now, Second Line Center said: Sounds like a tightrope procedure imo. Ankle maybe. You can say that again. Just now, Second Line Center said: Sounds like a tightrope procedure imo. Ankle maybe. You can say that again. Quote
Second Line Center Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 Is it the same leg as the Achilles? Quote
Two or less Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, mjd1001 said: I'm not saying he is going to be worth much on the open market, but one of the slowest players in the league is just not true. The NHL edge tracking site is up and there are two ways to measure him (or anyone else), I brought this up in another thread: -In terms of 'pure speed' top speed hit, he is middle-of-the-pack on the Sabres. Top speed not even close to Tuch or Zemgus (the top 2 on the team), but better/faster than Benson, Okposo, Greenway, Quinn, and most of the D-men. -In terms of how fast he PLAYS, they have a metric that measures that also, how many times/how often a player has 'speed burts' where they go over 20mph for a few seconds. Not just top speed, but how many times they use their speed. VO Isn't good, he is 'below average' on the team, but not at the bottom. So in terms of pure skating speed, he is average on this team. In terms of how often he 'skates fast', below average but not at the bottom of the leage. Put those 2 things together and you get an "OK" or "slightly below average" guy in terms of speed, but no where near one of the slowest in the league. He has some problems and holes in his game. Lack of high end speed or 'fast play' is one of them, but its no where near being close to the bottom of the team, or the league. Here is what i was going by- 19 minutes ago, Second Line Center said: Is it the same leg as the Achilles? yes Quote
Gatorman0519 Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 Shut him down for the year. No rush to bring him back the last two weeks of probably a dead season by that point. 3 Quote
mjd1001 Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Two or less said: Here is what i was going by- So we are looking at the same data and just weighing it differently. When someone says "one of the slowest in the league", I think there are 2 metrics 2 use. Overall top speed, he is near the middle of the leage. In speed bursts, he is toward the bottom but not on the bottom. I kinda average them together...and I 'average' Bad speed burts (but not in the bottom 10%) with 'middling' top speed...and I get a combined 'below average', not 'one of the slowest in the league'. I respect your point, however.....that how OFTEN a player uses their speed might be more important that overall top speed. Edited January 30 by mjd1001 Quote
Norcal Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 45 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said: Shut him down for the year. No rush to bring him back the last two weeks of probably a dead season by that point. Might as well. Bring up Kulich first and then Rosen for some games. Dabble with one or two others to see what they can do. 1 1 Quote
Slack_in_MA Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Two or less said: Here is what i was going by- yes So we're not particularly fast. And we're not particularly tough/gritty. And our scoring isn't particularly impressive this year. What kind of team is it we're trying to build exactly? 1 2 Quote
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