Greenway on the market ?

[inkman]

40 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

It’s called lying.  Don’t call something a rumor that is complete *****. People just want attention.  

[Marvin]

Before calling something a rumour that came from an article, read the article first.

In this case, this was a fan of another team, erm, journalist who was musing that Greenway might be available.  Hockey talking heads make the days go by with endless musings, speculation, and other dross that, because of their supposed profession, they masquerade as rumours.  I give this as much credibility as fan trade suggestions on HFBoards.

[Weave]

Wait…. A Greenway trade is imminent?

KA is a bum.

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, Contempt said:

My issue stems from one of those Sabres produced videos. Multiple players identified Mitts house as the place they all go to play. Dahlin moved out of that house and immediately improved. The team stinks at home and has done so for awhile.

It's not about the video games per se. If we identified that Mitts and a group of other important players were closing down bars every night at home then playing poor hockey afterward we'd have no problem pointing that out. So they aren't closing down bars, but they're up until 4am playing COD with Mitts and the boys instead, then playing poor hockey at home.

Maybe I'm wrong and this isn't what's happening. Maybe they are all acting like responsible adults at home. Normally I'd say it's young kids out partying too much, but it doesn't seem to happen on the road, or in obvious places like Las Vegas.

You know what doesn't travel with the player? The nice gaming PC.

Hockey players drinking, smoking, and partying all night is the stuff of legend and it still goes on today.  Usually more on the road.  

The Eichel/Kane/Reinhart crew were party animals, especially on the road.  Lehner had his own private drinking issues.  Bogo and ROR partied a lot   That crew is gone and replaced by choir boys in comparison.  

What we have today is a bunch of young kids playing video games and hanging out, competing with each other   

Thompson stays home with his family and has for years.  Tuch, the same now.  Dahlin/Mitts and the younger gang like to play and have fun but are basically choir boys in comparison to what they could be doing. 

The issue with losing at home is DISTRACTION and mental weakness.  Sure the home arena environment can suck at times, and that puts pressure on - that is something they need to turn around and savor.   Do they want the love from the fans that the Bills get?  Earn it by winning at home.   Make every home game Muscle Weight.  Be pissed to lose at home. NEVER lose 2 in a row at home.  

The coach needs to stomp on their azzes to get them focused and ready.  There is no reason they play better on the road than at home unless it takes them away from comfort zone distractions at home.   

The often used word “accountability” - players to each other and their coach, coach to FO/GM, GM to Terry, Terry to the fans.   We don’t have it. 

The Blues owner directed his GM to fire a popular Cup winning coach because he feared missing the playoffs two years in a row, which they still might do, but at least he will learn if the next guy in line can do it.   Imagine the numbness fans in Buffalo feel after 12-13 years.  

Edited January 19 by Pimlach

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, JohnC said:

I disagree that he doesn't play to his size. He's certainly not a thumper but he is a big player who plays strong. He doesn't get bumped off the puck or his position. I don't want to overrate his talents but as you have acknowledged he gives us a physical/big presence that this roster lacks. And, as you have also noted his PK is more than solid. 

KA gets a lot of justifiable criticisms. However, the acquisition of Greenway for a second-round pick that was acquired in the Eichel deal was a good value deal that better rounded out our roster.

I agree, but he should be more physical than he is to be truly effective. Pretty sure this is why Minnesota felt they could ditch him. Not physical enough and they already have more physical guys for those roles. Not good value for what they were paying him and their cap structure. 

I have zero problems with the trade of a 2nd for him. He's overpaid for what he brings but we have cap room so don't care about that. I'd gladly trade another 2nd for a good face off/PK guy to pair with him. 

[JohnC]

14 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I agree, but he should be more physical than he is to be truly effective. Pretty sure this is why Minnesota felt they could ditch him. Not physical enough and they already have more physical guys for those roles. Not good value for what they were paying him and their cap structure. 

I have zero problems with the trade of a 2nd for him. He's overpaid for what he brings but we have cap room so don't care about that. I'd gladly trade another 2nd for a good face off/PK guy to pair with him. 

I have no problem using a 2nd round pick to pair with him or using the pick for another solid NHL player.

On the other hand, I disagree with you regarding his value to cap ratio. This was a solid deal that benefited this team. He adds a style of strong play and big presence that was lacking on this team. It should be noted that it was the HC who worked with him prior to the pros who pushed for this deal. And breaking away from the topic on hand, I would say that the Clifton and Johnson deal have proved out to be solid deals that helped shore up this problematic blue line unit. I realize that it took some time for Clifton to find his comfort level. 

 

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

I have no problem using a 2nd round pick to pair with him or using the pick for another solid NHL player.

On the other hand, I disagree with you regarding his value to cap ratio. This was a solid deal that benefited this team. He adds a style of strong play and big presence that was lacking on this team. It should be noted that it was the HC who worked with him prior to the pros who pushed for this deal. And breaking away from the topic on hand, I would say that the Clifton and Johnson deal have proved out to be solid deals that helped shore up this problematic blue line unit. I realize that it took some time for Clifton to find his comfort level. 

 

No, I meant his cap number didn't suit Minnesota for what he brought them. That's part of why they ditched him for a pick. We have lots of money at the moment. It's a non issue here. 

[TageMVP]

Would be shocked if he was traded. Need more guys to be selfless like him 

Just make the smart play, use your body. 

No more fancy crap and this team would be miles ahead in all aspects 

[inkman]

He’s not getting ***** traded.  This topic is garbage.  It should be deleted.  Every 5th post is some Johnny come lately espousing their insight into Jordan Greenway.  We get it.  We all feel the same way.  ***** disgraceful topic.  Pick actual topics about things that may actually happen.  Not some fantasy land BS that we all know isn’t going to happen. 

[TageMVP]

6 minutes ago, inkman said:

He’s not getting ***** traded.  This topic is garbage.  It should be deleted.  Every 5th post is some Johnny come lately espousing their insight into Jordan Greenway.  We get it.  We all feel the same way.  ***** disgraceful topic.  Pick actual topics about things that may actually happen.  Not some fantasy land BS that we all know isn’t going to happen. 

This guy is absurdly long line at the grocery store mad 

[PerreaultForever]

9 minutes ago, TageMVP said:

This guy is absurdly long line at the grocery store mad 

Every time I read the topic title "Greenway on the market" it does make me think I should go buy some fresh vegetables. 

[Pimlach]

14 minutes ago, inkman said:

He’s not getting ***** traded.  This topic is garbage.  It should be deleted.  Every 5th post is some Johnny come lately espousing their insight into Jordan Greenway.  We get it.  We all feel the same way.  ***** disgraceful topic.  Pick actual topics about things that may actually happen.  Not some fantasy land BS that we all know isn’t going to happen.