PerreaultForever Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 Nobody should be considered "untouchable" on a losing franchise. Look at Arizona, they moved out a very good player in Chychrun and they got better. Now I know he wanted out, but the point is you can move out talent and improve if you do things right. It's the toys that you play with that are useful to you, not the shiny new ones still in their packaging. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 One of the biggest disconnects with the Sabres seems to be the quality of their Jr scouting and development and their professional scouting. They seem to do a great job finding talent in the draft and do a good job of developing players from their pipeline such as JJP, Cozens, Quinn, and even Ryan Johnson. However, their ability to identify and acquire professional players who can elevate the franchise is terrible. Outside of Tuch, I can't think of a single NHL player acquired by KA who has improved the franchise. I guess some could argue Anderson was ok, but he was only able to give us 57 games over 2 years and his goals against was 3.12 and 3.06 respectively. Not exactly NHL starter material. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 5:43 PM, Brawndo said: The condition on the trade is Robinson has to play 45 games for the Sabres this season or Buffalo keeps the pick So, basically, unless he sticks the entire year, he's free to Buffalo (there's only 58 games left this season). If he misses 14 games, he was FREE!!!!!!! Quote
Brawndo Posted December 8, 2023 Author Report Posted December 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Taro T said: So, basically, unless he sticks the entire year, he's free to Buffalo (there's only 58 games left this season). If he misses 14 games, he was FREE!!!!!!! Pretty much Quote
Quint Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 So let's see... Buffalo now has: Johnson, & Johnson, Samuelsson, Olofsson, Benson, Thompson, Bryson and Robinson, not to mention Grigensons, Clifson and Roson. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. 2 Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Quint said: So let's see... Buffalo now has: Johnson, & Johnson, Samuelsson, Olofsson, Benson, Thompson, Bryson and Robinson, not to mention Grigensons, Clifson and Roson. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. I don't see it son. 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 IMHO - he made a difference tonight....made his linemates look better. 4 Quote
Thorner Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Quint said: So let's see... Buffalo now has: Johnson, & Johnson, Samuelsson, Olofsson, Benson, Thompson, Bryson and Robinson, not to mention Grigensons, Clifson and Roson. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. ClifTon and RosEn but yes 2 Quote
... Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: IMHO - he made a difference tonight....made his linemates look better. Yeah, not a flashy player but not trash on the ice. He put himself in front of the net like a second-liner a few times. Never got the puck but he was there in case it did come to him. Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: IMHO - he made a difference tonight....made his linemates look better. Beware the Beniers effect That was his name right? The guy who had 2g and then nothing? Edited December 8, 2023 by LGR4GM 2 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Beware the Beniers effect That was his name right? The guy who had 2g and then nothing? Steve Bernier (I think)? Was he the guy who also had a goal called back in his first game as a Sabre (like Robinson did tonight) or am I thinking of somebody else? 1 Quote
inkman Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Quint said: So let's see... Buffalo now has: Johnson, & Johnson, Samuelsson, Olofsson, Benson, Thompson, Bryson and Robinson, not to mention Grigensons, Clifson and Roson. I'm beginning to see a pattern here. 1 8 Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: He didn't suck tonight. Quote
Pimlach Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: One of the biggest disconnects with the Sabres seems to be the quality of their Jr scouting and development and their professional scouting. They seem to do a great job finding talent in the draft and do a good job of developing players from their pipeline such as JJP, Cozens, Quinn, and even Ryan Johnson. However, their ability to identify and acquire professional players who can elevate the franchise is terrible. Outside of Tuch, I can't think of a single NHL player acquired by KA who has improved the franchise. I guess some could argue Anderson was ok, but he was only able to give us 57 games over 2 years and his goals against was 3.12 and 3.06 respectively. Not exactly NHL starter material. EJ and Clifton improve the d group over Boosh/Clague/Syillman/Bryson. People complain about every error and ignore the good. Power and Muel have slipped this season, that is our biggest problem on the back end. Two big minute players are struggling. Greenway, when healthy, has been solid. He is rarely healthy it seems. Edited December 8, 2023 by Pimlach 5 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Or this song, swapping the lyrics with "He didn't suck tonight...He didn't suck tonight...He didn't suck tonight...No suck...tonight....No suck...TONIGHT!" 1 1 Quote
inkman Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 Can we get a new player every game? 2 1 Quote
RochesterExpat Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, inkman said: Can we get a new player every game? How many bags of pucks does the org have? We should really consider this. 1 Quote
Weave Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 Clearly we need to sign this kid to a long term deal. 1 Quote
kas23 Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 9 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Beware the Beniers effect That was his name right? The guy who had 2g and then nothing? True. Even Stillman looked pretty good for his first few games. Then the coaching of his previous team wore off and he began playing Sabres hockey. 1 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Weave said: Clearly we need to sign this kid to a long term deal. 7 / $50M all around. Quote
Norcal Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 Goal shoulda counted adding to the legend of Big Rob Quote
inkman Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, Weave said: Clearly we need to sign this kid to a long term deal. 2 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: 7 / $50M all around. 1 minute ago, Norcal said: Goal shoulda counted adding to the legend of Big Rob We jest but I think he may be the start of retooling our bottom 6. Get a couple more guys pushing Okie to the press box and Rosen back to Rochester. 1 1 Quote
Norcal Posted December 8, 2023 Report Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, inkman said: We jest but I think he may be the start of retooling our bottom 6. Get a couple more guys pushing Okie to the press box and Rosen back to Rochester. If he plays that style of game every night he'll definitely be an asset. I agree. Okie is gonna have to sit on his stick at some point. Couple more big strong guys with snarl in their game like Carrier in LV. 1 Quote
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