GDT Sabres @ Hurricanes Saturday Dec 2, 7pm MSG ESPN+

[Believer]

Just now, Carmel Corn said:

Finally, somebody speaks the truth in plain simple english vs. the word salad nothingness that spews from Granato's mouth after every loss!

And, Tuch’s, and Mittelstadt’s, and Okposo’s… They all have the same sorry reaction to losing… No anger… No pride… 

 

[Billznut]

28 minutes ago, ... said:

This can't go on. Our "youth" is only learning bad habits and that they're not good enough individually (whether true or not).

This has been going on for 13 years. History repeating itself. We just have a new group of “core” young players who have no idea how to win or what it takes to win in this league and they were given the keys to the kingdom before they were ready and had proven themselves. The Sabres have been doing this exact thing for years now and it never ever works. 

[Gatorman0519]

Going to be tough selling tickets the rest of the year. 

[Billznut]

24 minutes ago, Ross Rhea said:

That tomato can had a .878 sv% and 2.93 Gaa and Buf could only manage 23 shots on goal, when do heads roll?

Sometime during 2025 at earliest. 

[Ducky]

1 hour ago, Gatorman0519 said:

I’m fairly certain this is not a playoff team. 

They are with a starting goalie.

[Believer]

No team respects the Sabres… No evidence the Sabres respect themselves…

Team needs a shake up… Sit Samuelson… Sit Power… Put pressure on the forwards to get aggressive… 

Granato should sit in the press box for a few games with Adams and Pegula… and watch the team he is sending out each night…

[Gatorman0519]

3 minutes ago, Ducky said:

They are with a starting goalie.

They need a lot more than that. 

[Carmel Corn]

5 minutes ago, Believer said:

And, Tuch’s, and Mittelstadt’s, and Okposo’s… They all have the same sorry reaction to losing… No anger… No pride… 

 

Makes me wonder if Cozens is implying his current teammates are not stepping up enough or is he suggesting that the roster needs to add players (not currently on the team) who can bring some toughness.  Does he think the current roster can do this, or are they too weak to stand up for themselves?

[JohninMinn.]

Name change that fits.

Buffalo Butter Knives

[Slack_in_MA]

3 minutes ago, Ducky said:

They are with a starting goalie.

Interesting take. What is it about the effort, excluding goal-tending, from these last two games that leads you to that conclusion?

[rickshaw]

It is so true. Other teams know we are soft, the refs know we are soft. The team knows they’re soft. Won’t change until the makeup of the team is changed. Gallant wouldn’t appreciate the softness that’s for sure.

[Doohicksie]

I tuned out after the CAR short handed goal, but it looks like I owe Krebsie this

[K-9]

14 minutes ago, Believer said:

And, Tuch’s, and Mittelstadt’s, and Okposo’s… They all have the same sorry reaction to losing… No anger… No pride… 

 

Yep. They gotta be like Shoresy and hate to lose and refuse to accept it. They’re too nice to be the Drury we need in the room. And it’s a goddamn shame. 

[Spoonman]

53 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Dang it. I'm back in. (Dinner was tasty.)

But I do want to consider one thing. I wonder what Adams would do if Pegula actually gave an ultimatum of, "You will make the playoffs in 2024-25 or you and Granato are both fired."  (Unfortunately, I think it's too late to give such an ultimatum for this season because opposing teams are still in contention and Tage/Quinn really need to be in the lineup.)

I'm guessing UPL and Comrie wouldn't be the goalies, VO and KO would be moved post-haste, etc.

@DarthEbriate see my new thread on this topic Deja Vu all over again.....

6 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

I tuned out after the CAR short handed goal, but it looks like I owe Krebsie this

@Doohickie You just wanted a pooch on this thread. Admit it. 😜

[Spoonman]

39 minutes ago, sabresouth said:

12 goals against in last two games. Unacceptable. Obviously defense needs help but good grief asking our goalies to keep us in a game is too much to ask. Way to go KA. 

@Sabretooth See my new thread "Deja Vo all over again...." for my thoughts.

[Believer]

23 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Yep. They gotta be like Shoresy and hate to lose and refuse to accept it. They’re too nice to be the Drury we need in the room. And it’s a goddamn shame. 

The team is a reflection of its leaders… Granato is an undemanding nice guy… to quick to explain away individual and team failure… Okposo is a nice guy… to quick to explain away miserable effort and losses… Make him a Player Coach… let him play 6 minutes a game.

Change Coaches… Change Captains… 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Believer

[CallawaySabres]

I hope they get embarrassed at home tomorrow, get bood off the ice, and we wake up Monday to KA and Don getting fired.

[Wyldnwoody44]

9 minutes ago, CallawaySabres said:

I hope they get embarrassed at home tomorrow, get bood off the ice, and we wake up Monday to KA and Don getting fired.

Yes, they've had enough time... If the product out there now is this bad then we aren't going anywhere with this duo. It was reasonable to a point up until this season but yeahhh....not anymore 

[SABRES 0311]

Sell the team. Move it to a different city. In five years make an expansion team in Buffalo. Use the VGK model. Win a cup.

[Goldseatsaud]

Team is Soft like adams 

[FrenchConnection44]

Horrendous coaching. Bad habits from so many players. 

Have to change the coaching situation. Find a veteran who will be respected. And who can institute a good system and get the players to toughen up. 

[HumanSlinky39]

Such a frustrating team. We're past 1/4 through the season, at what point do you do something to shake things up? I know not having Tage and Quinn is a blow, but these struggles are beyond that. Bring in a proven winner to coach (Gallant is tanned, rested, and ready) and go get a good veteran goalie to tandem with UPL; Comrie ain't it. The playoffs SHOULD be the goal and that ain't happening without some changes.

[Stoner]

So it seems Carolina rolled out a play by play-less broadcast tonight. Just two guys saying ohhhh nice save and ohhhh yeah when the Canes scored. And stories about Arturs Irbe. Bizarre.

[Porous Five Hole]

7 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

So it seems Carolina rolled out a play by play-less broadcast tonight. Just two guys saying ohhhh nice save and ohhhh yeah when the Canes scored. And stories about Arturs Irbe. Bizarre.

The normal guy’s dad died so he missed the game and this is how the broadcast overcame that.  

[SABRES 0311]

51 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Sell the team. Move it to a different city. In five years make an expansion team in Buffalo. Use the VGK model. Win a cup.

And if ur not down with that we got two words for ya