Isak Rosén Interview, Nov 20, 2023

[LGR4GM]

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by LGR4GM

[Pimlach]

Seems like a good young man.  Keep working kid.  

[Bob Malooga]

Rosen > Kulich

[inkman]

26 minutes ago, Bob Malooga said:

Rosen > Kulich

 

[Zamboni]

Nice interview 

[LGR4GM]

This guy hitting, after a rough post draft year, would be great. He's got excellent skating and an underrated shot. 

[msw2112]

I wasn't a big fan of the pick of Rosen, at the time.  He was very small and you never know how guys will grow.  He had shown out at one international tournament, but his day-to-day numbers weren't that great.  That said, the Sabres picked him right around where the experts had ranked him, so it wasn't one of those reach picks where the Sabres were trying to outsmart everyone, or one of those picks where a guy dropped way down and the Sabres swooped in the for the "steal" (like Grigerenko).  It looks like the kid has grown physically and mentally and he's been well-served with development time in the AHL, so I'll just give credit to the Sabres on this one.  Of course, he hasn't made it to the NHL yet, but he appears to be on track to be a successful draft and develop type of player that has been properly managed.  I suspect he'll get a few games in Buffalo this year and make the team next year.

Edited November 21, 2023 by msw2112

[FrenchConnection44]

Great stuff. Love his attitude and personality. 

His statement about working his a** off to get stronger and faster is what you want to see from all our young players.

That’s what Benson needs to do (especially given he’s not as fast as, say, a Rosen or Savoie - though his skill sets are of a different sort). 
 

Lots of promise from these young players. Really hope they pan out. I’d move to see Rosen and Kulich make the roster next year. And be called up at the end of the year. Also good to have Dahlin locked up - I am sure he’ll be a positive influence on Rosen. 

[FrenchConnection44]

On 11/20/2023 at 9:28 PM, inkman said:

 

He is scoring more but Kulich is the only player under 20 in the top 10 in goals in the AHL. 

Rosen is a better passer and overall skilled player. Kulich is bigger with more goal scoring / sniper ability. Two different players who mesh well, imo. I’d like to see them both called up late and also hopefully make the team next year and play together. 

[Doohicksie]

Where did the "Ro ZAY un" pronunciation come from?  He said it "RO zun" in the video.

[French Collection]

32 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

Where did the "Ro ZAY un" pronunciation come from?  He said it "RO zun" in the video.

I recall Gord Miller from TSN pronouncing it Rozayun at the WJ. He does his homework on Euro pronounciatiations, asking players, trainers etc…

I think he just accepted that most NAm people will pronounce it as Rozun.

[Doohicksie]

5 minutes ago, French Collection said:

I think he just accepted that most NAm people will pronounce it as Rozun.

If he says it that way, why are broadcasters affecting Swedish accents?

[French Collection]

49 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

If he says it that way, why are broadcasters affecting Swedish accents?

This is just one broadcaster who makes a concerted effort to get their names right. For many Euros the WJ is their first introduction to North American audiences.

Rosen just took the path of least resistance.

My last name is French and I pronounce it like the English speaking Canadians do because I find it easier than spending time tweaking their pronunciation.

I now live in a French speaking community and everybody gets it right.

[Taro T]

19 minutes ago, French Collection said:

This is just one broadcaster who makes a concerted effort to get their names right. For many Euros the WJ is their first introduction to North American audiences.

Rosen just took the path of least resistance.

My last name is French and I pronounce it like the English speaking Canadians do because I find it easier than spending time tweaking their pronunciation.

I now live in a French speaking community and everybody gets it right.

You Rick Martin's kid?  😉

[Doohicksie]

Isak Rosen has a better chance to make the Sabres roster than some think per Chad DeDominicis

TLDR:  Although he plays a top six role in the AHL, he is likely a bottom six guy in the NHL, so if injuries strike the bottom six he might be chosen as first callup over such players as Rousek, Kulich and Helenius.  Chad states Rosen is further along in his development curve than Kulich and Helenius and has higher upside than Rousek.

[bob_sauve28]

8 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

Isak Rosen has a better chance to make the Sabres roster than some think per Chad DeDominicis

TLDR:  Although he plays a top six role in the AHL, he is likely a bottom six guy in the NHL, so if injuries strike the bottom six he might be chosen as first callup over such players as Rousek, Kulich and Helenius.  Chad states Rosen is further along in his development curve than Kulich and Helenius and has higher upside than Rousek.

That is an interesting take. Did not know he was so good on the forecheck. Also, I thought he had grown to 6'0"

[Doohicksie]

28 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Also, I thought he had grown to 6'0"

So does EliteProspects

[Pimlach]

34 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

That is an interesting take. Did not know he was so good on the forecheck. Also, I thought he had grown to 6'0"

5'11" or 6' is not much of a factor. 

I would like to see him continue to get stronger and get his weight up to 185 someday.  

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

5'11" or 6' is not much of a factor. 

I would like to see him continue to get stronger and get his weight up to 185 someday.  

Don't tell this board that. The meltdown over calling Helenius small like Benson and Savoie was all based on the fact he wasn't 1 inch taller. It was and is the dumbest example of bias we have for this place. 

[bob_sauve28]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Don't tell this board that. The meltdown over calling Helenius small like Benson and Savoie was all based on the fact he wasn't 1 inch taller. It was and is the dumbest example of bias we have for this place. 

Hmmm...I dunno, worse than the bias against Power because he "isn't physical enough"?

 

Pretty close if you ask me

[dudacek]

To be fair, there was surprisingly little meltdown around here over the Helenius pick itself.

Not none, but it wasn’t intense, repeated, or from a large number of posters.

The sweeping “the Sabres need to stop drafting smurfs” stuff remains alive and well.

[inkman]

28 minutes ago, dudacek said:

To be fair, there was surprisingly little meltdown around here over the Helenius pick itself.

Not none, but it wasn’t intense, repeated, or from a large number of posters.

The sweeping “the Sabres need to stop drafting smurfs” stuff remains alive and well.

If they would hound the puck like those horny bastards hound smurfette, it wouldn’t be a discussion.  

2 hours ago, Doohickie said:

Isak Rosen has a better chance to make the Sabres roster than some think per Chad DeDominicis

TLDR:  Although he plays a top six role in the AHL, he is likely a bottom six guy in the NHL, so if injuries strike the bottom six he might be chosen as first callup over such players as Rousek, Kulich and Helenius.  Chad states Rosen is further along in his development curve than Kulich and Helenius and has higher upside than Rousek.

I think Rousek may need to clear waivers.  If that’s true and he’s sent down, his status as a prospect is kaput. 

[bob_sauve28]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

5'11" or 6' is not much of a factor. 

I would like to see him continue to get stronger and get his weight up to 185 someday.  

Factor or no factor, its still wrong. 

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, inkman said:

If they would hound the puck like those horny bastards hound smurfette, it wouldn’t be a discussion.  

I think Rousek may need to clear waivers.  If that’s true and he’s sent down, his status as a prospect is kaput. 

Last season there was an opportunity for Rousek to come in and take a 4th line spot.  He didn't rise to the occasion. 

Edited August 8 by Pimlach

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Factor or no factor, its still wrong.