Better trade candidate - Lawson Crouse

[Crusader1969]

6’4. 215lbs 26 year old with decent contract. 
 

has had back to back 20 goal + seasons, kills penalties , fights   

Would have to overpay to get him but he is exactly what this team  needs

Edited November 5, 2023 by Crusader1969

[HOUSE]

Can he Shoot da Puck ?

[GASabresIUFAN]

Why would we trade for forwards?  Seriously.

We need goaltending and we need accountability.

[JohnC]

26 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

6’4. 215lbs 26 year old with decent contract. 
 

has had back to back 20 goal + seasons, kills penalties , fights   

Would have to overpay to get him but he is exactly what this team  needs

We currently have one of the better PKs in the league. What is the need for another forward when our system is stacked with forwards. The fighting issue makes no sense to me. Playing hard and tough has little to do with fighting. That's what we need more! For those who are enamored with fighting I recommend that you attend MMA events. Cozens got involved in a fight just to prove whatever he was trying to prove. He's fortunate that he didn't get a lingering concussion that would have kept him out for the rest of the season. 

[Crusader1969]

33 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Why would we trade for forwards?  Seriously.

We need goaltending and we need accountability.

they just played last night with 11 forwards and one of them was Olofsson

they had to play 2 lines for the last 10 mins of the game 

that’s a team that needs forwards 

[jad1]

33 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Why would we trade for forwards?  Seriously.

We need goaltending and we need accountability.

Because he would be a better replacement for Olofsson than a rookie, while the team is supposedly all-in for a playoff run.

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said:

they just played last night with 11 forwards and one of them was Olofsson

they had to play 2 lines for the last 10 mins of the game 

that’s a team that needs forwards 

There is nothing unusual that coaches shortened their bench at the end of a game. It happens all the time. It's a routine practice that all coaches employ. 

[Crusader1969]

18 minutes ago, JohnC said:

We currently have one of the better PKs in the league. What is the need for another forward when our system is stacked with forwards. The fighting issue makes no sense to me. Playing hard and tough has little to do with fighting. That's what we need more! For those who are enamored with fighting I recommend that you attend MMA events. Cozens got involved in a fight just to prove whatever he was trying to prove. He's fortunate that he didn't get a lingering concussion that would have kept him out for the rest of the season. 

You can tell me they are stacked at forward right now when they don’t have room for Olofsson in the line up 

If you want to start talking about next year ,  it’s almost 100% that Okposo  and possibly even Girgs isn’t back.  Who’s replacing their size and PK abilities??

yes Crouse will fight but he’s scored over 40 goals in the last 2 seasons

and those wanting to trade for a goalie, please provide one name that would be available that’s for sure an upgrade to what they have 

[Crusader1969]

3 minutes ago, JohnC said:

There is nothing unusual that coaches shortened their bench at the end of a game. It happens all the time. It's a routine practice that all coaches employ. 

Wouldn’t it be good if they could at least have a 3rd line that they could trust last in a hockey game ?

[JohnC]

11 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

Wouldn’t it be good if they could at least have a 3rd line that they could trust last in a hockey game ?

As I said before, shortening your bench is a standard approach that all teams use at the end of close games. Why do you think that some of our best players play on the PK that is now one of the better PK units in the league? Coaches get paid to adjust to the circumstances of the game. Shortening the bench at the end of tight game is a tactic that every team employs. 

[Zamboni]

IMO… If anything…. Focus on goaltending. Nothing else. Nothing.

[Flashsabre]

Arizona won't move him. He is part of the culture there for the kids and is important for them for all the reasons you mentioned wanting to trade for him.

Would be a great get though 

[Flashsabre]

It’s not goaltending as much as a consistent commitment to a defensive system that doesn’t leave them out to dry. Play consistently better in the defensive zone and the goaltending is capable.

[Carmel Corn]

2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

6’4. 215lbs 26 year old with decent contract. 
 

has had back to back 20 goal + seasons, kills penalties , fights   

Would have to overpay to get him but he is exactly what this team  needs

Yes!

[Scottysabres]

[PerreaultForever]

I like Crouse as a player quite a bit but the Coyotes aren't doing that bad so are they actually looking to unload people at this point?

[Mango]

6 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

they just played last night with 11 forwards and one of them was Olofsson

they had to play 2 lines for the last 10 mins of the game 

that’s a team that needs forwards 

The team has prospect depth and skill at the top. But it lacks physicality and NHL level depth down the roster. 

We should be open to upgrading the forwards, defense, and goaltender. 

[GoPuckYourself]

6 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

they just played last night with 11 forwards and one of them was Olofsson

they had to play 2 lines for the last 10 mins of the game 

that’s a team that needs forwards 

Bring up Kulich or Savoie

[Pimlach]

7 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Why would we trade for forwards?  Seriously.

We need goaltending and we need accountability.

The right forward would help.  Not sure who this guy is but we have at least 5 forward slots to improve upon. 
 

Accountability has to come from everyone.   You don’t trade for it. 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Pimlach

[Pimlach]

13 hours ago, JohnC said:

As I said before, shortening your bench is a standard approach that all teams use at the end of close games. Why do you think that some of our best players play on the PK that is now one of the better PK units in the league? Coaches get paid to adjust to the circumstances of the game. Shortening the bench at the end of tight game is a tactic that every team employs. 

Except the Stanley Cup Champions, they ran 4 lines religiously and they  still do.  
 

Shortening the bench is a sign of lack of depth and lack of trust.  It can work at times, but you don’t live by it. 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Pimlach

[JohnC]

7 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Except the Stanley Cup Champions, they ran 4 lines religiously and they  still do.  
 

Shortening the bench is a sign of lack of depth and lack of trust.  It can work at times, but you don’t live by it. 

Vegas has a fuller (more talent) team than Buffalo does. That's why they are the SC Champions. The coach has to make decisions based on the talent he has. He's not going to rely on a strategy that is more suitable for another team than on his team. The unvarnished reality is that Vegas is a Cup contending team while we are a playoff contending team. From a roster standpoint, there is a big difference in talent and most notably, experience. 

Your comment that shortening the bench is a sign of lack of depth and trust. That's true; and that's exactly my point. That's the reason why most coaches shorten their benches at the end of the game when the circumstances dictate it. It is done to give the team the best chance to win.

Edited November 6, 2023 by JohnC

[Sabres Fan in NS]

14 hours ago, Shoot da Puck said:

Can he Shoot da Puck ?

Can he Stop da Puck ??

That's a better question.  No offense.

[Stoner]

Good hockey name.

[Norcal]

I'm with you on this one @Crusader1969 I've suggested this for a couple of years for all the reasons you stated above.

I think it's a little too late now for the reasons listed below the op.

He'd be a perfect fit for what the Sabres need though imo.

[French Collection]

No immediate help whatsoever but Ethan Miedema plays for the same junior team Crouse was with. He has similar size and stats to Crouse.

If he pans out he could be a replacement for Greenway.