How big is Oloffson's dog house?

[Archie Lee]

Thanks. I didn’t know the 25% max on 2nd retention. 

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

Thanks. I didn’t know the 25% max on 2nd retention. 

I'm not 100% sure, @Taro Tknows the cba better but I'm fairly certain that's the retention rules. 

[French Collection]

19 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I'm not 100% sure, @Taro Tknows the cba better but I'm fairly certain that's the retention rules. 

I think the second trade can retain 50%, which ends up being 25% of the original contract.

[Taro T]

30 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I'm not 100% sure, @Taro Tknows the cba better but I'm fairly certain that's the retention rules. 

 

10 minutes ago, French Collection said:

I think the second trade can retain 50%, which ends up being 25% of the original contract.

Yep.  50% of the remaining 50% is 25% of the original contract.

Another 50% of the original 100% would have the guy playing for the other team for free.  Which, as @LGR4GM points out, is not allowed per the CBA.  The CBA also wouldn't allow another 50% of the remaining 25% to be retained in a 3rd trade.  

Edited November 2, 2023 by Taro T

[Doohicksie]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

So if you want to then trade that guy away, they're already cheaper for a 3rd party. 

Oh... so if we got Leblanc and wanted to trade him, we could retain 50% also and his salary would be just over $1 million for the other (third) team?  Interesting concept.

[French Collection]

8 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

Oh... so if we got Leblanc and wanted to trade him, we could retain 50% also and his salary would be just over $1 million for the other (third) team?  Interesting concept.

Yes, third party team would get VO or Lebanc for 1/4 of their $, which brings way more teams into play. Cap hit would be just over $1M instead of $4M, which only a couple of teams can take. Retaining on two guys is similar to a buy out but you get an asset back.
The league would probably close this loophole after this deal.

[matter2003]

After Biro's performance yesterday, pretty large.

[Radar]

I wonder sometimes does VO just not care enough? Great shot, little effort?

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

Oh... so if we got Leblanc and wanted to trade him, we could retain 50% also and his salary would be just over $1 million for the other (third) team?  Interesting concept.

It's been done around the league.