Dorian out as Senators GM

[Brawndo]

 

[matter2003]

that seems strange...must be some sort of power struggle he lost going on with either the owner or coach.

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

that seems strange...must be some sort of power struggle he lost going on with either the owner or coach.

And they have to forfeit a pick. 

 

[TheAud]

Seems likely that Ottawa screwing up the Dadonov trade to Vegas and having it subsequently costing them a first round pick was a straw-that-broke-the camel's-back moment for the new Ottawa ownership relative to Dorion, or simply a good catalyst to replace him as they may have wanted to do anyway. Something like that. 

No way these two events being announced on the same day are a coincidence.

[Brawndo]

14 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

that seems strange...must be some sort of power struggle he lost going on with either the owner or coach.

Not really

1. Dorion traded the 7th overall pick in 2022 for a year of Debrincat who didn’t fit DJ Smith’s System. The pick from Detroit will not be Top 10 this year.

2. He capped out the Senators to the point where they couldn’t sign Pinto if he wasn’t suspended.

3. He didn’t properly inform VGK of No Trade List and just cost them another first round pick as @LGR4GMmentioned. 
 

 

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Not really

1. Dorion traded the 7th overall pick in 2022 for a year of Debrincat who didn’t fit DJ Smith’s System. The pick from Detroit will not be Top 10 this year.

2. He capped out the Senators to the point where they couldn’t sign Pinto if he wasn’t suspended.

3. He didn’t properly inform VGK of No Trade List and just cost them another first round pick as @LGR4GMmentioned. 

He did a lot of dumb and short sighted things. 

[Buffalonill]

So let me get this straight The NHL punishes Ottawa for a trade but the Blackhawks get nothing.

Makes sense 

[Flashsabre]

Ha my dad said to me last night he doesn’t think Dorian and DJ Smith will last much longer in Ottawa. Have to get him to buy a lotto ticket.😀

Apparently the new owner is high on Patrick Roy so he might be a name of interest.

[Brawndo]

[dudacek]

A bunch of high profile errors plus a new owner, it was only a matter of time.

[Flashsabre]

3 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

A Chiarelli- Ralph Krueger tandem would do wonder for Ottawa😝

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The entire Dadonov thing is ridiculous. If Cap Friendly has NMC details for individual players surely Vegas has to share some negligence somehow in that trade.

[LGR4GM]

20 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

So let me get this straight The NHL punishes Ottawa for a trade but the Blackhawks get nothing.

Makes sense 

Because the NHL is a crappy league with a great sport. 

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Because the NHL is a crappy league with a great sport. 

Very salient 

[French Collection]

25 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Not really

1. Dorion traded the 7th overall pick in 2022 for a year of Debrincat who didn’t fit DJ Smith’s System. The pick from Detroit will not be Top 10 this year.

2. He capped out the Senators to the point where they couldn’t sign Pinto if he wasn’t suspended.

3. He didn’t properly inform VGK of No Trade List and just cost them another first round pick as @LGR4GMmentioned. 
 

 

Plus, he’s a Melnyk hire, who had no GM experience beforehand. He was a head scout.

[GASabresIUFAN]

39 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

And they have to forfeit a pick. 

 

...and now we know the rest of the story.  

As an outsider, it looks to me like he has done a very good job in Ottawa despite some high profile mistakes.  Someone will hire him soon.

Edited November 1, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN

[Brawndo]

 

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

...and now we know the rest of the story.  

As an outsider, it looks to me like he has done a very good job in Ottawa despite some high profile mistakes.  Someone will hire him soon.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Dorion's resume

Drafted Stutzle, Sanderson, Pinto, Thachuk, and Batherson creating a solid long-term core with Chabot.  Added Chychrun, Giroux and Tarasenko for veteran leadership.  Added young talent Norris and Joseph to supplement his core.

He also actively worked to add goaltending in Forsberg and Korpisalo.  

This is a good team he has built that just missed the playoffs last year, and like the Sabres, they have a real chance to make the playoffs this season.

[LGR4GM]

Sens new owner is pissed

 

 

[LGR4GM]

Oh I think this ain't over... he is not happy. 

 

[GASabresIUFAN]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Oh I think this ain't over... he is not happy. 

 

Sounds like the NHL failed to disclose some material facts. 

[Curt]

37 minutes ago, ... said:

The entire Dadonov thing is ridiculous. If Cap Friendly has NMC details for individual players surely Vegas has to share some negligence somehow in that trade.

Capfriendly didn’t have Dadonov’s NTC.  They usually get all the contract details, but not always.  It was Ottawa’s responsibility to inform Vegas, and they negligently did not.

[Flashsabre]

I think losing a first round pick over this incident that happened almost 2 years ago is a joke. A fine should have been the punishment. And why did it take the NHL this long to figure it out?

I understand why the new owner is pissed.

Dorian’s days were numbered ever since Andlauer brought his buddy Staois in above Dorian. Smith will be next out the door.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Flashsabre

[MattPie]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Oh I think this ain't over... he is not happy. 

 

Previous Sens ownership was pretty good at "forgetting" to inform partners of details.