Are the 2006-7 the Best Team Ever w/o a HoFer?

[Marvin]

I read this somewhere last night.  If someone could post a link, I would be much obliged.

I have a hard time coming up with any team that was 1st overall without a Hall of Gamer.  What do you think?

[Thorner]

Did the 05-06 team have a hall of famer?

[JoeSchmoe]

So are we just going to assume Ryan Miller, Daniel Briere, and Michael Funk don't eventually get the nod?

[OverPowerYou]

I will be at Rory Fitzpatrick’s Hall of Fame induction

[GASabresIUFAN]

Miller will eventually get the nod. He is 14th all-time in wins (391), two more than Hasek (although Osgood is 13th).  

[Marvin]

2 hours ago, Thorny said:

Did the 05-06 team have a hall of famer?

No.

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Miller will eventually get the nod. He is 14th all-time in wins (391), two more than Hasek (although Osgood is 13th).  

Miller and Numminen are really the only 2 candidates that I can think of.  A Buffalo Cup win could have put them and possibly Drury in.

[Curt]

Miller is definitely going to be a hall of gamer, so this who conversation is kind of moot.

[shrader]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Miller will eventually get the nod. He is 14th all-time in wins (391), two more than Hasek (although Osgood is 13th).  

And the all time leader among Americans. I’m not so sure Quick ever gets the 16 to tie him. 
 

edit: Hellebuyck needs 153. I’d say Miller is in before he is getting close. 

Edited October 12, 2023 by shrader

[Thorner]

16 minutes ago, Marvin said:

No.

Miller and Numminen are really the only 2 candidates that I can think of.  A Buffalo Cup win could have put them and possibly Drury in.

Then I disagree with the premise 

[Marvin]

13 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Then I disagree with the premise 

Fair enough.

[#freejame]

I just don’t see Ryan Miller as a Hall of Famer. Put him in the USA Hockey HoF and call it a day. 

[Curt]

8 minutes ago, #freejame said:

I just don’t see Ryan Miller as a Hall of Famer. Put him in the USA Hockey HoF and call it a day. 

He is 14th in NHL career wins, 30th in sv%.  He was an objectively great goalie.

I think he gets in with ease.

[#freejame]

30 minutes ago, Curt said:

He is 14th in NHL career wins, 30th in sv%.  He was an objectively great goalie.

I think he gets in with ease.

That’s a great accomplishment, but there’s probably a half dozen retired goalies not in the Hall that were better than him and another 3-4 sure things getting to the end of their careers who are all preferred over him. 
He was a definitive #1, who for periods of weeks/months at a time was the best goalie in the league. If the Olympics don’t happen in 2010 there’s a good chance he doesn’t have any major awards to go along with zero cups. 

[shrader]

We might have to enter another name into the hall of fame discussion. A certain head coach will move up to 4th all time in wins this season. 4 years of .500 hockey and only Bowman is ahead of him. If he can manage to win just one cup, I’d imagine he’s a slam dunk. 
 

And I know those win stats are inflated thanks to the shoot out era, but I don’t think many care. 

[Porous Five Hole]

49 minutes ago, #freejame said:

That’s a great accomplishment, but there’s probably a half dozen retired goalies not in the Hall that were better than him and another 3-4 sure things getting to the end of their careers who are all preferred over him. 
He was a definitive #1, who for periods of weeks/months at a time was the best goalie in the league. If the Olympics don’t happen in 2010 there’s a good chance he doesn’t have any major awards to go along with zero cups. 

I agree with you and I also think the HOF is very hard on goaltenders for some reason. 
There's something like 39 goalies in the HOF, with only five being inducted since 2006: Luongo, Brodeur, Vachon, Hasek, and Belfour.

I love me some Millsie, but I think he was a tier below the five I just mentioned.  

[JoeSchmoe]

21 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I agree with you and I also think the HOF is very hard on goaltenders for some reason. 
There's something like 39 goalies in the HOF, with only five being inducted since 2006: Luongo, Brodeur, Vachon, Hasek, and Belfour.

I love me some Millsie, but I think he was a tier below the five I just mentioned.  

What about Lundqvist?

1 minute ago, JoeSchmoe said:

What about Lundqvist?

Just googled it... Add Barrasso and Vernon to the list.

[Curt]

1 hour ago, #freejame said:

That’s a great accomplishment, but there’s probably a half dozen retired goalies not in the Hall that were better than him and another 3-4 sure things getting to the end of their careers who are all preferred over him. 
He was a definitive #1, who for periods of weeks/months at a time was the best goalie in the league. If the Olympics don’t happen in 2010 there’s a good chance he doesn’t have any major awards to go along with zero cups. 

He won a Vezina to go along with the 2010 Olympics.

I don’t know man.  I’m still skeptical. Who do you have as goalies who were better than him but didn’t make the hall?

[Porous Five Hole]

22 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

What about Lundqvist?

Just googled it... Add Barrasso and Vernon to the list.

Yes three goalies incoming in the class of 2023.  Induction in November. 
I didn’t mean to exclude them, but they’re technically not in yet 😜

[Curt]

44 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I agree with you and I also think the HOF is very hard on goaltenders for some reason. 
There's something like 39 goalies in the HOF, with only five being inducted since 2006: Luongo, Brodeur, Vachon, Hasek, and Belfour.

I love me some Millsie, but I think he was a tier below the five I just mentioned.  

Who is Vachon?

[shrader]

They cleared that goalie log jam for a reason. 

[Porous Five Hole]

Just now, Curt said:

Who is Vachon?

Goalie from the Kings from the 70’s. His fun fact is his jersey number was the first retired number in LA Kings history. 

[Weave]

19 minutes ago, Curt said:

Who is Vachon?