LTS Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 (edited) On 2/27/2024 at 11:39 AM, That Aud Smell said: Right? So <redacted>. Despite the motivations behind posting this specific phrase in conjunction to the discussion, don't you think that demonstrating your willingness to do so undermines your point on not using the phrase you were arguing against? Perhaps I read things wrong? Edited February 28 by LTS 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said: Heavens to Mergatroyd. I didn't intend anything by the images above other than to demonstrate that my aversion to the phrase "getting your bell rung" wasn't a "personal problem," as had been stated. Wasn't my intention to call you out specifically; I apologize if that's what it looked like. 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 hour ago, LTS said: Despite the motivations behind posting this specific phrase in conjunction to the discussion, don't you think that demonstrating your willingness to do so undermines your point on not using the phrase you were arguing against? Perhaps I read things wrong? This is fair. More than fair. As I think you inferred, I was attempting to deploy irony there in order to make a point. But irony isn't a license to drop a slur. I'm going to edit my post. If those who quoted that post could do likewise (@LTS, @Weave) , that'd be great. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 Getting this thread back on track: Rempe sporting a frickin' shiner at today's practice. The kid needs to learn how to protect himself and pick his spots. Quote
Weave Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 23 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: This is fair. More than fair. As I think you inferred, I was attempting to deploy irony there in order to make a point. But irony isn't a license to drop a slur. I'm going to edit my post. If those who quoted that post could do likewise (@LTS, @Weave) , that'd be great. Dammit. I thought the irony was well played. I’ll edit in the spirit of all the non-PC, PC in here. 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, Weave said: I thought the irony was well played. I’ll edit in the spirit of all the non-PC, PC in here. This is also fair. And I appreciate it. But my better angels - or at least what I think I'm hearing when I listen to whomst I think they are - counseled me to remove the pejorative term. Thanks for doing the same. Quote
Weave Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 22 minutes ago, inkman said: Gat damn that kid took a lumpin’ Is that an ok response? Not PC enough? Too PC? Or maybe I hit the Goldilocks post for a change? 1 Quote
Thorner Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doohickie said: Again, my calling it getting his bell rung doesn't have anything to do with a player's access to the proper care. I think @thewookie1 covered it pretty well. Difference between right and easy. You aren’t literally preventing anything by using the term but you are surrendering yourself to the idea that your verbiage is merely a symptom of the greater lack of awareness in society at large Edited February 27 by Thorny 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 You're extrapolating quite a bit there. At this point you're not debating this with me, you're debating this with a straw man of your own making. Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 hour ago, inkman said: Dude needs to chill out . 1 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 55 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Dude needs to chill out . Agreed. And I've grown leery of those who are gassing up the kid for taking on all comers (which, thankfully, does not include the Rangers' social media team). Quote
thewookie1 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Agreed. And I've grown leery of those who are gassing up the kid for taking on all comers (which, thankfully, does not include the Rangers' social media team). It was cool the first night; now its just concerning. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: It was cool the first night; now its just concerning. Agreed 100% -- I definitely played along with those initial highlights (was it the stadium game?). But someone - was it a guy named Olivier (?) - just effing fed him the other night. No bueno. I feel like he needs to be protected from himself. Also: I acknowledge how times have changed. I think about the gladiator vibes that I rabidly supported for a guy like Rob Ray -- who, yes, was a very tough guy, but he was not, in fact, a true heavyweight (the tie-down trick was ingenious but also necessary to give him a better chance against some of the monsters he fought)). I just don't get down like that anymore. 1 Quote
bunomatic Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 (edited) I still enjoy a good fair hockey fight but acknowledge that in the long run its probably better for the game if the fighting goes away. Not wanting to get into a debate here but I’m not sure if the officiating can properly control and punish the cheapshots that invariably may follow. Edited February 28 by bunomatic Quote
inkman Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 2 hours ago, bunomatic said: I still enjoy a good fair hockey fight but acknowledge that in the long run its probably better for the game if the fighting goes away. Not wanting to get into a debate here but I’m not sure if the officiating can properly control and punish the cheapshots that invariably may follow. Cheap shots are controlled now? Quote
PerreaultForever Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 3 hours ago, bunomatic said: I still enjoy a good fair hockey fight but acknowledge that in the long run its probably better for the game if the fighting goes away. Not wanting to get into a debate here but I’m not sure if the officiating can properly control and punish the cheapshots that invariably may follow. I am old enough to remember when the NHL first went over to play European teams and how they commented on the use of sticks and even kicks and a variety of cheap shots. But no fighting. Wayne Cashman almost had his tongue cut out. I think it'll be problematic. Maybe just expand and refine the instigator rule to limit it but I personally see no need to change a thing. 1 Quote
bunomatic Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 9 hours ago, inkman said: Cheap shots are controlled now? Thats what I’m saying. The officiating is terrible and I believe the cheap shot players will ramp it up in the absense of someone to keep them honest. You see it now where even on clean hits and cheap ones someone will step in and fight or try to fight that guy ( maybe not on this team ) whereas the officials will often let it go. Anyways thats how I see it. 1 Quote
SwampD Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 Wow. Catching up on some reading today. The salient points: R word bad Can’t say got your bell rung, because,… reasons. and 3 1 Quote
LTS Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 22 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: This is fair. More than fair. As I think you inferred, I was attempting to deploy irony there in order to make a point. But irony isn't a license to drop a slur. I'm going to edit my post. If those who quoted that post could do likewise (@LTS, @Weave) , that'd be great. Edited as requested. 22 hours ago, Weave said: Dammit. I thought the irony was well played. I’ll edit in the spirit of all the non-PC, PC in here. I understand the sentiment. For me, one term dismisses a condition whereas the other term dismisses a person with a condition. 1 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 34 minutes ago, LTS said: one term dismisses a condition whereas the other term dismisses a person with a condition. elegantly put. Quote
OverPowerYou Posted February 29 Report Posted February 29 (edited) Watching teams like the Rangers and Oilers play tonight. All I can say is, wow, the Sabres are small, weak, soft, slow and uninspiring compared to these other teams. Boys compared to men Edited February 29 by OverPowerYou 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted February 29 Report Posted February 29 4 hours ago, OverPowerYou said: Watching teams like the Rangers and Oilers play tonight. All I can say is, wow, the Sabres are small, weak, soft, slow and uninspiring compared to these other teams. Boys compared to men Except we are not small overall, we just play small. 1 Quote
sabrefanday1 Posted February 29 Report Posted February 29 4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Except we are not small overall, we just play small. agree..we are actually a rather BIG team. See other guys on other teams who are not huge but playing with grit and determination, something not seen in these nect of the woods much lately... 1 Quote
Archie Lee Posted February 29 Report Posted February 29 On 2/27/2024 at 11:33 PM, PerreaultForever said: I am old enough to remember when the NHL first went over to play European teams and how they commented on the use of sticks and even kicks and a variety of cheap shots. But no fighting. Wayne Cashman almost had his tongue cut out. I think it'll be problematic. Maybe just expand and refine the instigator rule to limit it but I personally see no need to change a thing. There is a lot of data that exists from the more than half century that has passed since Wayne Cashman nearly lost his tongue. Quote
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