Around the NHL 2023-24 Season

[thewookie1]

1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

Maybe Adams can sell high with Comrie.

That’d be nice, I like Comrie as a person, seems like a nice guy; but has only shown us a couple minor flashes of good play before getting hurt 

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

That’d be nice, I like Comrie as a person, seems like a nice guy; but has only shown us a couple minor flashes of good play before getting hurt 

Which is exactly what he always was. All those stats people who threw out diagrams and numbers claiming he was some sort of untapped gem were just blowing a lot of smoke and living in denial of the fact KA screwed up goaltending on this team and we all have to pray now that Levi and/or UPL will somehow rise up and save us. 

[Doohicksie]

2 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

That’d be nice, I like Comrie as a person, seems like a nice guy; but has only shown us a couple minor flashes of good play before getting hurt 

A quick survey of goalie injuries reported this month:

• Anaheim- John Gibson - Dec 18 - Out indefinitely - Personal (birth of child) (Calle Clang, Lukas Dostal on roster)
• Dallas- Jake Oettinger - Dec 18 - Out indefinitely - Lower Body - (Matt Murray, Scott Wedgewood on roster)
• Detroit- Ville Husso - Dec 18 - Ques Wed
• Detroit- Alex Lyon - Dec 18 - Out indefinitely - Lower Body (James Reimer on roster)
• Los Angeles- Pheonix Copley - Dec 18 - Out indefinitely - Lower Body (Cam Talbot, David Rittich on roster)
• New Jersey- Vitek Vanecek - Dec 17 - Ques Tues - Undisclosed (Nico Daws, Akira Schmid on roster)
• Seattle - Philipp Grubauer - Dec 10 - Out indefinitely - Lower Body (Joey Daccord, Chris Driedger on roster)
• Toronto - Joseph Woll - Dec 9 - Out indefinitely - Ankle (Martin Jones, Ilya Samsonov on roster)
• Vegas - Adin Hill - Dec 17 - Ques Tues - Undisclosed (Jiri Patera, Logan Thompson on roster)

I grayed out the Questionables, assuming they are short term.  But there are teams that may be looking for help.  I'm sure the Sabres are looking at each team's situation and trying to see if there's a mutually beneficial deal available involving Comrie.

 

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

A quick survey of goalie injuries reported this month:

• Anaheim- John Gibson - Dec 18 - Out indefinitely - Personal (birth of child) (Calle Clang, Lukas Dostal on roster)
• Dallas- Jake Oettinger - Dec 18 - Out indefinitely - Lower Body - (Matt Murray, Scott Wedgewood on roster)
• Detroit- Ville Husso - Dec 18 - Ques Wed
• Detroit- Alex Lyon - Dec 18 - Out indefinitely - Lower Body (James Reimer on roster)
• Los Angeles- Pheonix Copley - Dec 18 - Out indefinitely - Lower Body (Cam Talbot, David Rittich on roster)
• New Jersey- Vitek Vanecek - Dec 17 - Ques Tues - Undisclosed (Nico Daws, Akira Schmid on roster)
• Seattle - Philipp Grubauer - Dec 10 - Out indefinitely - Lower Body (Joey Daccord, Chris Driedger on roster)
• Toronto - Joseph Woll - Dec 9 - Out indefinitely - Ankle (Martin Jones, Ilya Samsonov on roster)
• Vegas - Adin Hill - Dec 17 - Ques Tues - Undisclosed (Jiri Patera, Logan Thompson on roster)

I grayed out the Questionables, assuming they are short term.  But there are teams that may be looking for help.  I'm sure the Sabres are looking at each team's situation and trying to see if there's a mutually beneficial deal available involving Comrie.

 

You SURE about that? I doubt it. 

[thewookie1]

2 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

Which is exactly what he always was. All those stats people who threw out diagrams and numbers claiming he was some sort of untapped gem were just blowing a lot of smoke and living in denial of the fact KA screwed up goaltending on this team and we all have to pray now that Levi and/or UPL will somehow rise up and save us. 

But he did have good analytical numbers; great goalie don't just spawn in like a video game. You either have to draft them, find a untapped gem, or pay out the nose to get one.

Comrie ended up being fools gold but that doesn't suddenly make the attempt completely without merits.

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, thewookie1 said:

But he did have good analytical numbers; great goalie don't just spawn in like a video game. You either have to draft them, find a untapped gem, or pay out the nose to get one.

Comrie ended up being fools gold but that doesn't suddenly make the attempt completely without merits.

Considering all the goalies who have moved around and switched teams through trades and various other deals over the last 3 years I'd say it was like rolling a pair of dice knowing they had to come up double sixes or you lose. I suppose we should be happy Murray didn't waive his no trade clause or Adam's goaltending botchery would have been even worse.  As is, it's pretty bad though all the same. 

[Flashsabre]

To move Comrie you are eating half his salary and taking a conditional 7th back.

He can’t stay healthy and has been brutal when in between the pipes.

Waive him and put him in Rochester until an injury happens unless they want him gone and are looking at another vet goalie.

Toker is an AHL goalie and Cooley has been horrid this season so there is no help in the system.

[Doohicksie]

6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

You SURE about that? I doubt it. 

I'm not saying they're definitely making a move but yes I'm sure he's always out there doing "due diligence" just in case the right deal comes up.

[Doohicksie]

6 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

But he did have good analytical numbers; great goalie don't just spawn in like a video game. You either have to draft them, find a untapped gem, or pay out the nose to get one.

Comrie ended up being fools gold but that doesn't suddenly make the attempt completely without merits.

But the point is- you can't predict ahead of times which ones will bloom and which will thud.  When we picked him up I seem to remember someone did a comparison and he looked comparable to Hasek with Chicago.  It was worth a shot.  It's frustrating I know, but Kevyn's whole philosophy is based on value contracts in order to build a roster that provides sustainable performance.

[#freejame]

33 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

But the point is- you can't predict ahead of times which ones will bloom and which will thud.  When we picked him up I seem to remember someone did a comparison and he looked comparable to Hasek with Chicago.  It was worth a shot.  It's frustrating I know, but Kevyn's whole philosophy is based on value contracts in order to build a roster that provides sustainable performance.

Or in others words Kevyn is too worried about winning the cup in five years than he is this year. 

[Doohicksie]

2 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Or in others words Kevyn is too worried about winning the cup in five years than he is this year. 

Yep, that's the frustrating part.

Part of the frustration is at this point, we don't even know if it will work.  Hopefully in a year or two we'll see progress being made, but it feels like the build has stalled out.  Maybe it's growing pains for bringing too many young players in too quickly, and eventually they'll find their legs.

[Stoner]

12 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

That’d be nice, I like Comrie as a person, seems like a nice guy; but has only shown us a couple minor flashes of good play before getting hurt 

I have to ask.

How does he seem nice?

[Sabres Fan in NS]

17 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

I have to ask.

How does he seem nice?

Did you ever hear him interviewed?

 

[Stoner]

49 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:

Did you ever hear him interviewed?

 

Yes. Why is he nice? Does he smile? Laugh? Talk about rescuing kittens?

[thewookie1]

1 hour ago, PASabreFan said:

I have to ask.

How does he seem nice?

Between interviews and appearances on Beyond Blue & Gold, his reaction to a bottle cap bonking his head and the the like; he's shown to be a very friendly, albeit quirky guy. 

[shrader]

45 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Yes. Why is he nice? Does he smile? Laugh? Talk about rescuing kittens?

He has a 4.76 goals against average when playing the Panthers. Does that count?

[PerreaultForever]

6 hours ago, Doohickie said:

I'm not saying they're definitely making a move but yes I'm sure he's always out there doing "due diligence" just in case the right deal comes up.

I honestly can't believe this. If he was really looking for a goalie there were many opportunities over his tenure and he didn't make any big moves in that direction. To think he'd switch gears now and make a goalie move just doesn't seem likely to me. 

Common sense said they should have added a better veteran goalie than Comrie and most people here think he has done a poor job on goaltending but I think he will remain steadfast on his letting the kids grow together thing and that includes Levi and UPL as his goalies. 

[Doohicksie]

24 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I honestly can't believe this. If he was really looking for a goalie there were many opportunities over his tenure and he didn't make any big moves in that direction. To think he'd switch gears now and make a goalie move just doesn't seem likely to me. 

Common sense said they should have added a better veteran goalie than Comrie and most people here think he has done a poor job on goaltending but I think he will remain steadfast on his letting the kids grow together thing and that includes Levi and UPL as his goalies. 

You're talking about acquiring a goalie; I'm talking about moving on from one.

[North Buffalo]

On 12/17/2023 at 9:56 AM, Curt said:

I don’t think it’s an issue of investing what went wrong with the hospital.  I’m sure they understand how ERs work.

It’s more likely that the NHL/NHLPA have protocols that if the player can not be helped at the normal ER within X amount of time, then they have some sort of on call specialist take care of him.  Somehow those protocols weren’t or couldn’t be followed and they are looking into why.

At least that’s my interpretation of the situation.

This time of year... nothing went wrong... bettin they arent used to having to wait... welcome to the real world... pay some doc enough and his/her short staff and maybe...

Edited December 20, 2023 by North Buffalo
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[PerreaultForever]

7 hours ago, Doohickie said:

You're talking about acquiring a goalie; I'm talking about moving on from one.

Oh well I was just talking about goalies in general but fair enough. Thing is, Comrie isn't anything anyone would want so it's a non issue. 

[LGR4GM]

Nolan Patrick the 2nd overall pick in the 2017 NHL draft, has retired from the NHL. He has had multiple injuries including head injuries. 

 

[Flashsabre]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Nolan Patrick the 2nd overall pick in the 2017 NHL draft, has retired from the NHL. He has had multiple injuries including head injuries. 

 

Sad news. Kid never really had a chance as he was ravaged by injuries.

[Thorner]

On 12/19/2023 at 7:44 AM, Doohickie said:

But the point is- you can't predict ahead of times which ones will bloom and which will thud.  When we picked him up I seem to remember someone did a comparison and he looked comparable to Hasek with Chicago.  It was worth a shot.  It's frustrating I know, but Kevyn's whole philosophy is based on value contracts in order to build a roster that provides sustainable performance.

No, he looked like a guy that hadn’t managed to play more than 20 games in a decade

not like…Hasek 

Hasek lol 

It was a bad bet by the prism of the moment. Very predictable. I predicted it. Lots predicted it. 

[Thorner]

TSN Overdrive ripping Terry Pegula today 

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Apparently Ristolainen mentioned he really wished he had Tortorella as a coach when he was young. 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Thorny

[Thorner]