Sabres looking at Zegras?

[Two or less]

https://www.tvasports.ca/2023/09/20/trevor-zegras--les-sabres-dans-le-portrait

Apparently this report by TVA Sports claims the Sabres checked in with the Ducks about Trevor Zegras.

[Flashsabre]

After watching the behind the draft videos I have no doubt that Adams picks up the phone and checks on every single guy that might be available or is having contract issues. The call probably went nowhere but he atleast checked in to see if there was a chance of a potential deal

[Zamboni]

Ok, but KA probably checked in on a lot of players since April. 

[JoeSchmoe]

  On 9/20/2023 at 11:58 PM, Two or less said:

https://www.tvasports.ca/2023/09/20/trevor-zegras--les-sabres-dans-le-portrait

Apparently this report by TVA Sports claims the Sabres checked in with the Ducks about Trevor Zegras.

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Doesn't seem like the type of guy Adams is after. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

I hear they are signing Kane

[shrader]

  On 9/21/2023 at 12:10 AM, JoeSchmoe said:

Doesn't seem like the type of guy Adams is after. 

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Only because he missed Granato at the usntdp by a couple years. 

[Flashsabre]

I call BS, Eklund hasn’t reported it on Hockeybuzz😛

[Mustache of God]

Adams has stated time and time again that he's always in contact with other GMs doing his due diligence. Aside from the Eichel trade where he was holding all of the chips, he's been very gunshy about trades, usually getting what I feel is less than market value for the picks or players he's brining in, but those other trades are all peanuts compared to the Eichel trade.

I wonder what a fair trade would look like? Zegras is a center and there's no way Adams is moving Tage or Cozens given their contracts. Mitts had similar stats last year (6 fewer points) and is two years older. Casey + non-top shelf Prospect? Casey and VO? 

I don't think I'd want to pay what the Ducks would be asking.

[That Aud Smell]

What would it take? Power? Power +?

He’s an RFA. How’s that work - like a Drury sign and trade?

[Two or less]

  On 9/21/2023 at 1:02 AM, That Aud Smell said:

What would it take? Power? Power +?

He’s an RFA. How’s that work - like a Drury sign and trade?

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Definitely not Owen Power. 

One of Benson/Savoie/Kulich would be a start, first round pick, UPL and something else im guessing.

[Brawndo]

Savoie or Östlund/Rosen or Wahlberg/and a 1st is probably in the ballpark. 

[thewookie1]

UPL, Olofsson, 1 of the non Benson prospects, and a pick for Zegras and Gibson 50% retained.

@Ben_Mathewson was the one to give this idea.

 

Well we do know during the Eichel saga, Adams wanted Zegras to be a part of the deal

[LGR4GM]

[That Aud Smell]

  On 9/21/2023 at 1:09 AM, Two or less said:

Definitely not Owen Power. 

One of Benson/Savoie/Kulich would be a start, first round pick, UPL and something else im guessing.

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  On 9/21/2023 at 1:18 AM, Brawndo said:

Savoie or Östlund/Rosen or Wahlberg/and a 1st is probably in the ballpark. 

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I don’t get this valuation. Isn’t Zegras a young super duper star? Would Anaheim be giving him up for prospects and picks? Power is probably too heavy, but if I were Anaheim, I’d want a young top-6 forward coming back and then a prospect/pick.

[Doohicksie]

  On 9/21/2023 at 12:55 AM, Flashsabre said:

I call BS, Eklund hasn’t reported it on Hockeybuzz😛

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That actually makes it more credible.

[Curt]

  On 9/21/2023 at 1:38 AM, That Aud Smell said:

I don’t get this valuation. Isn’t Zegras a young super duper star? Would Anaheim be giving him up for prospects and picks? Power is probably too heavy, but if I were Anaheim, I’d want a young top-6 forward coming back and then a prospect/pick.

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I’m not so sure Zegras is a super duper star.  He is basically a Cozens level guy.  Drafted the same year with similar production.  Comparing the two, Zegras has higher level puck skills, and probably a higher offensive ceiling as a result, but he doesn’t have the size, he is supposed to be a C but is horrendous at face offs, and I’m not sure how his defense is.

That being said, I would think it would take something like Savoie, plus one of Östlund/Rosen, plus a pick.  Something like that.

[PerreaultForever]

  On 9/21/2023 at 1:09 AM, Two or less said:

Definitely not Owen Power. 

One of Benson/Savoie/Kulich would be a start, first round pick, UPL and something else im guessing.

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idk, and I doubt it's even true, but what if it involves Dahlin?

I will have a hard time staying a Sabres fan if we traded for Zegras.  I really can't stand that guy. 

[Brawndo]

  On 9/21/2023 at 1:38 AM, That Aud Smell said:

I don’t get this valuation. Isn’t Zegras a young super duper star? Would Anaheim be giving him up for prospects and picks? Power is probably too heavy, but if I were Anaheim, I’d want a young top-6 forward coming back and then a prospect/pick.

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Zegras had almost identical counting stats to Cozens last season, while playing almost 300 minutes more than Dylan last season. 
 

In terms of fancy stats Cozens is actually a better play driver. 
 

This is probably the hold up in negotiations,  Zegras wants to be paid as a 1C while Verbeek looks at McTavish and Carlsson figuring they are the Top 2Cs moving forward and will be paid as such in a few years. A Cozens Type Deal is probably what the Ducks are looking for. 
 

 Most likely this is the agent looking for leverage in negotiations 

[Two or less]

  On 9/21/2023 at 3:00 AM, Brawndo said:

Most likely this is the agent looking for leverage in negotiations 

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Yeah i agree. And everybody knows all the assets the Sabres have so it makes it sound realistic.

This time a year ago the Sabres were linked with Jason Robertson (via kevin weekes if i recall) and then during the season it was Timo Meier. Now it's Zegras.

That said, one of these times it'll be true.

[thewookie1]

  On 9/21/2023 at 2:59 AM, PerreaultForever said:

idk, and I doubt it's even true, but what if it involves Dahlin?

I will have a hard time staying a Sabres fan if we traded for Zegras.  I really can't stand that guy. 

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Doubt the Sabres even would give a call if Dahlin was involved. 

[dudacek]

Zegras isn’t as highly thought off by the industry as he is hyped by fans.

Remember that Athletic ranking of the top 125 NHL players? The one that had 6 Sabres on it?

It was vetted by NHL scouts, coaches and GMs and it  has one Duck on it.

And it ain’t Mr. Michigan.

[PerreaultForever]

  On 9/21/2023 at 4:30 AM, thewookie1 said:

Doubt the Sabres even would give a call if Dahlin was involved. 

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Why? I'm not suggesting Anaheim asking for Dahlin, I'm suggesting what if contract talks have soured worse than we know? I certainly hope not, but Dahlin was supposed to be "unhappy". What if he's so unhappy he's flipped and said he will be "considering all his options" as agents like to say. 

[SABRES 0311]

I assume it’s just an inquiry. The Sabres have a lot of offensive capability. The fix is on keeping the puck out of our net.

[Scottysabres]

This guy is a Granato guy. I have no doubt the Sabres have interest.

[LGR4GM]

  On 9/21/2023 at 5:09 AM, PerreaultForever said:

Why? I'm not suggesting Anaheim asking for Dahlin, I'm suggesting what if contract talks have soured worse than we know? I certainly hope not, but Dahlin was supposed to be "unhappy". What if he's so unhappy he's flipped and said he will be "considering all his options" as agents like to say. 

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What if none of what you say here is remotely true?

Dahlin was at the prospects tournament. Went to the Jets game. Is in their promotional stuff joking around. For a guy who's "unhappy" he sure is doing a lot of stuff with his team.