Idle SabreSpacer speculation re: Patrick Kane

[PerreaultForever]

9 minutes ago, ... said:

Who sees Kane delivering a powerful, inspiring locker room speech during the second intermission of a game that could put the Sabres into the playoffs but they're down three points?

No, but nobody on the Sabres is going to deliver that. Kyle might try. Cozens or Tuch might try but the team really doesn't have that kind of leadership - yet. 

What I could see Kane doing though is sitting beside a young guy and going "hey man, you know when we were behind in Chicago and they were double shifting me I conserved energy by............" or other little tidbits of experience from a guy who has been there. 

But again, he's not coming here. He will go to a cup contender (who will likely fudge their cap numbers to work him in). Maybe Pittsburgh if they are actually in the hunt. Maybe Vegas. Somebody like that. A team with veterans. 

[Huckleberry]

I think we will win the cup this year, Kane or not.    And will win 5 cups in next 10 years 😛

[LGR4GM]

On 8/25/2023 at 8:07 PM, PerreaultForever said:

No, but nobody on the Sabres is going to deliver that. Kyle might try. Cozens or Tuch might try but the team really doesn't have that kind of leadership - yet. 

 

This is just blatantly false. Like, it's straight bull crap. 

[LGR4GM]

On 8/25/2023 at 8:07 PM, PerreaultForever said:

What I could see Kane doing though is sitting beside a young guy and going "hey man, you know when we were behind in Chicago and they were double shifting me I conserved energy by............" or other little tidbits of experience from a guy who has been there. 

Okposo, Tage, Tuch, Skinner, E. Johnson, Dahlin, can all have this conversation. It's also something you learn by doing, not being told about. 

[Drag0nDan]

I wouldn't be opposed if he passes a physical.  That likely wouldn't be until January though.  

[LGR4GM]

Rumors that Kane wants to go to Detroit. Take them with all the grains of salt. Does this guy know anything? Probably not but it's still the offseason so. 

 

 

[nfreeman]

Darren Dreger says the Sabres are interested!

 

[dudacek]

I think Terry was always going to be interested.

What people tend to forget is that Donnie coached him in Chicago, and Kevyn roomed with him when PK was a rookie.

Buffalo-born was never the only connection.

[Flashsabre]

Kane would be the perfect signing if he was healthy now. Replace Quinn. Problem is he is probably ready around same time Quinn is. If he is ready earlier I could see them ship out VO and sign Kane

[#freejame]

Kane will bring in more dollars in merch sales than his salary. For that reason alone it’s foolish to think we aren’t angling for him. 

[Porous Five Hole]

3 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Kane will bring in more dollars in merch sales than his salary. For that reason alone it’s foolish to think we aren’t angling for him. 

KA is in the business of winning games and Kane (at this stage in his career) doesn't help that. The Sabres don’t need to bring in the hockey equivalent of TO to sell merchandise.  

[nfreeman]

BTW:  I've seen a few posters mention that they aren't able to embed tweets -- but I was able to do so in my post above.  Maybe it's just an issue when trying to do so on a phone?

[Brawndo]

Adams did admit that he had a long conversation with Kane’s Agent last night during His Presser.. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About Owen Power 

[Zamboni]

3 hours ago, #freejame said:

Kane will bring in more dollars in merch sales than his salary. For that reason alone it’s foolish to think we aren’t angling for him. 

KA is smart. He won’t bring in someone who isn’t needed.

Wanted? Maybe.
But needed…. He’s not.

Patty Cake can go fool around in NYC with his choice of NYR, NYI, or NJD. Hell, even PIT can be a nice fit. 

[Brawndo]

FWIW both Jeremy White and Chad DeDomincis indicated sources have told them the interest in Kane by the Sabres is real. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 minute ago, Brawndo said:

FWIW both Jeremy White and Chad DeDomincis indicated sources have told them the interest in Kane by the Sabres is real. 

Noooooooooooo. Yes, he is from here.  Yes, he has vasts amount of playoff and Cup winning experience.  He may even have something left in the tank.  He might even sell a few tickets.  However, he is part of that terrible culture from the Bowman era Hawks and friends in Chicago say he is far from a model citizen. I don’t want him anywhere near the youngsters.

[Brawndo]

34 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Noooooooooooo. Yes, he is from here.  Yes, he has vasts amount of playoff and Cup winning experience.  He may even have something left in the tank.  He might even sell a few tickets.  However, he is part of that terrible culture from the Bowman era Hawks and friends in Chicago say he is far from a model citizen. I don’t want him anywhere near the youngsters.

I agree 1000%, His Metrics have fallen off a cliff. His defense is non existent. The Blackhawks told Him after His Off Ice Issues , not to stay in WNY during  the offseason, this the the reason he sold His House by Lake Erie. 
 

My biggest fear is a Kane Contract with the Sabres means that Terry is getting involved with Hockey Decisions again 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Brawndo

[Weave]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Noooooooooooo. Yes, he is from here.  Yes, he has vasts amount of playoff and Cup winning experience.  He may even have something left in the tank.  He might even sell a few tickets.  However, he is part of that terrible culture from the Bowman era Hawks and friends in Chicago say he is far from a model citizen. I don’t want him anywhere near the youngsters.

I don’t know ***** about Kanes metrics, or if he will have anything left post recovery, but do not underestimate the value of surrounding kids under pressure with playoff tested, grizzled vets.  That is exactly when the Pens did with Crosby.  Most of the vets he played with his first season or two were well past their “use by” date, but they showed him how to win in the NHL.

I didn’t use to have an open mind about bringing in Kane.  I’m willing to consider it now. He won’t be a key player.  He would be a role player.  These kids are going to be under significant pressure now.  Having some support players to help guide that can only be a positive.

Edited September 23, 2023 by Weave

[GASabresIUFAN]

8 minutes ago, Weave said:

I don’t know ***** about Kanes metrics, or if he will have anything left post recovery, but do not underestimate the value of surrounding kids under pressure with playoff tested, grizzled vets.  That is exactly when the Pens did with Crosby.  Most of the vets he played with his first season or two were well past their “use by” date, but they showed him how to win in the NHL.

I didn’t use to have an open mind about bringing in Kane.  I’m willing to consider it now. He won’t be a key player.  He would be a role player.  These kids are going to be under significant pressure now.  Having some support players to help guide that can only be a positive.

I think there are better candidates for that role.

[tom webster]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I think there are better candidates for that role.

I would agree with this. However, I could also see a role for Kane but I wouldn’t prioritize him. Like Brawndo, I fear a Kane signing would indicate a Terry push. 
I know the thought of finishing his career in Buffalo has intrigue Kane and I know TPEGS is interested. I never got the sense KA was interested.

A couple of final points, I think he has grown up a lot. The false rape allegations really shook him up. However, doing nothing about the mess in Chicago doesn’t speak well of him. On the other hand, I think the leadership in Buffalo is strong enough to overcome any issues Patrick would bring.

[Weave]

30 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I think there are better candidates for that role.

And certainly they should be evaluated as they come available.  Nonetheless, I think he could provide valuable playoff experience if his head is in the right place.

[Flashsabre]

I’m not pounding the table for or against Kane to Buffalo. I do believe the interest is real and he could be useful here.

Why do people keep acting like this is 21 year old Kane personality wise?

Guy is 34, he has grown up a lot in that time. He wouldn’t be negatively influencing anyone. Okposo and EJ will have the room  locked down.

Yes I think Pegula is interested. He is owner and President now. He has some influence. 

I would like the move if it means VO is on the way out. There are many factors at play here:

1) Quinn’s injury leaves a hole. Even if he is back in the new year he won’t be the same this season.

2) I’m sure Terry would like the HOFer from Buffalo in Sabres colours. 

3) I think people underestimate how motivated Kane would be on ice to play for the Sabres

4) Adams was his roommate and knows him personally 

5) Granato coached him in Chicago and raves about him.

Skinner Tage Kane for a year would produce offence and allow them to spread the lineup out with Mitts and Tuch forming a line and JJ Cozens a third line.

I know he doesn’t bring the defense people want but a motivated Kane for a year setting up Tage and Skinner would be a positive.

 

[Taro T]

36 minutes ago, tom webster said:

I would agree with this. However, I could also see a role for Kane but I wouldn’t prioritize him. Like Brawndo, I fear a Kane signing would indicate a Terry push. 
I know the thought of finishing his career in Buffalo has intrigue Kane and I know TPEGS is interested. I never got the sense KA was interested.

A couple of final points, I think he has grown up a lot. The false rape allegations really shook him up. However, doing nothing about the mess in Chicago doesn’t speak well of him. On the other hand, I think the leadership in Buffalo is strong enough to overcome any issues Patrick would bring.

The bolded is the biggest reason why it could work bringing him in.  The team's culture has definitely been established.  One guy won't destroy it; especially when the GM is as cognizant about recognizing and building the culture.  If he were brought in sometime between January and the trade deadline; if he were creating issues, he wouldn't be here long.

Personally, don't expect he brings more to the table than others do at this point in his career.  But if they were to sign him, wouldn't be opposed; as this FO has earned a benefit of the doubt IMHO.  (Know that isn't a sentiment that's univeral here.)

[thewookie1]

Warts and all Kane, depending on the purpose and usage Kane could be a nice piece for any playoff run. The guy is clutch and has 3 Cups and a Conn Smythe to his name. I'm not worried about his past as he's certainly grown up. Give him a a 1 year deal, let him get conditioned in Rochester and give Quinn all the time he needs to recover. My hope would be Kane's homecoming and desire to come back from a surgery no one has before would give him plenty to play for. If he flames out and is forced to retire, so be it. He's without a doubt a HoFer regardless.

[French Collection]

I have always been leery of bringing him in but the comments about the culture being solid, Kane being mature and motivated have me on the fence.

If PK and KA want it to happen, I would give VO lots of opportunity to bump up his numbers, trade him when Kane is ready to sign.