sweetlou Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) According to a report by Frak Seravalli, John Gibson asked for a trade and said, "I am not playing another game for the Anaheim Ducks". John Gibson Career Stats GP GS W L T OT SA GA GAA S S% SO MIN 2013-2014 ANA 3 3 3 0 -- 0 87 4 1.33 83 .954 1 181:07 2014-2015 ANA 23 21 13 8 -- 0 674 58 2.60 616 .914 1 1,339:55 2015-2016 ANA 40 38 21 13 -- 4 992 79 2.07 913 .920 4 2,294:40 2016-2017 ANA 52 49 25 16 -- 9 1,437 109. 2.22 1,328 .924 6 2,950:21 2017-2018 ANA 60 60 31 18 0 7 1,872 139 2.43 1,733 .926 4 3,428:29 2018-2019 ANA 58 57 26 22 0 8 1,838 153 2.84 1,685 .917 2 3,233:02 2019-2020 ANA 51 51 20 26 0 5 1,552 149 3.00 1,403 .904 1 2,981:17 2020-2021 ANA 35 35 9 19 0 7 1,042 101 2.98 941 .903 3 2,030:30 2021-2022 ANA 56 56 18 26 0 11 1,789 172 3.19 1,617 .904 1 3,235:35 2022-2023 ANA 53 52 14 31 0 8 1,983 200 3.99 1,783 .899 1 3,004:55 Career - 431 422 180 179 -- 59 13,266 1,164 2.83 12,102 .912 24 24,679:51 He has been a sub 3.00 GAA and better than .900 S% every year until Anaheim started their rebuild 2 years ago. He is a proven goaltender that can split time for two years with Levi and then be a solid back up option. Not sure what the cost would below since he has clearly demanded a trade. I would expect it to be UPL, 24 2nd rd pick and Joker/Olofsson. If they want a prospect like Rosen or Östlund, I would even do that, but then include Henrique Edited July 4, 2023 by sweetlou 1 1 Quote
Curt Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Gibson is proven? Proven to be what? An average to below average goaltender? Sure he used to be good, but that was 5 years ago. Maybe he could rebound, but……. Gibson has been outperformed by his backups 3 of the past 4 years (the other year his backup was a washed Ryan Miller). There are reports of him being reluctant or unwilling to grow/adjust his game to incorporate new techniques. He is about turn 30 and he is under contract for 4 more years at $6.4M. Not sure if I want him for free to be honest. Edited July 4, 2023 by Curt 7 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 4 more years at 6.4 million? ***** no. Looks like a guy who got his big payday and that's that's for him. 3 Quote
sabresparaavida Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 Gibson is a proven waste of cap space, bad goalie, and not worth it unless Anaheim is sending significant assets back with him. Quote
kas23 Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 I just don’t see how this would be at all possible. He is owed $6.4M for the next 4 years. Even if they retain 50%, it still doesn’t make sense. At this rate, it would’ve been smarter to sign Ullmark for a 6 year contract. As an aside, I find it ridiculous how players demand trades when they signed a guaranteed contract. Shouldn’t have signed for such long term then. I also don’t believe the agent here. That’s damage control…for himself. Best thing would be to terminate the contract, but the agent will do anything to prevent that. Quote
Buffalonill Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 I think the most shocking development is frank seravalli is 35 I thought he was in his 50's 2 1 Quote
MBD Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 He's been hovering around .900 and 3 GAA since 2019-2020. That and his salary make him a hard pass. Quote
Turbo44 Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, MBD said: He's been hovering around .900 and 3 GAA since 2019-2020. That and his salary make him a hard pass. On a horrible defensive team so keep that in mind. He’s a well above average nhl goalie. In saying that, he doesn’t fit what the Sabres need 1 Quote
MBD Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: On a horrible defensive team so keep that in mind. He’s a well above average nhl goalie. In saying that, he doesn’t fit what the Sabres need For the past 4 seasons? And the Sabres weren't great defensively either. Not worth the risk to find out he peaked 5 seasons ago. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: On a horrible defensive team so keep that in mind. He’s a well above average nhl goalie. In saying that, he doesn’t fit what the Sabres need No, he's not. Edited July 4, 2023 by LGR4GM Quote
Buffalonill Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: On a horrible defensive team so keep that in mind. He’s a well above average nhl goalie. In saying that, he doesn’t fit what the Sabres need He has a horrible contract and has been Declining every year. Explain to me why his back ups does good but he can't? Quote
Taro T Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: He has a horrible contract and has been Declining every year. Explain to me why his back ups does good but he can't? Will preface this with not wanting ANYTHING to do with Gibson. But a reason why the backups look reasonable and the starter looks like trash, especially on one of the 3 worst teams in the league, is that the starter gets the bulk of the games against good teams which are significantly better than the skaters in front of him so he looks even worse than he should but the backups get to play against teams that are aren't significantly better than the skaters in front of them or maybe even that 1 or 2 teams that the Ducks are actually better than. Who you play against can go a long way towards making you look like a hero or a bum. Only saw 2 Ducks games this year, so this spitballing could be WAY off. But should it turn out Gibson gets moved and actually stops being a sieve, it would go a long way towards explaining it. Even if he still is bad (as expected) but not terrible ... Quote
mjd1001 Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 Zero interest in him. I'm not even sure he would be any better next year than a healthy Comrie (I still think Comrie played through some injury woes even when he came back) or UPL. And to give up anything for that? I posted this in another thread about him, but the last time he had a 'good' year, Jeff Skinner was in his FIRST year with the Sabres. And even that year was 'good', not great. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 See, this is why Kevyn has said he's good with what we currently have. There are other options out there but as you explore them none of them are really what he's looking for. Gibson is at best average. He would be okay in a mentoring role like Anderson, but probably doesn't have 40-50 quality games in him. Helle is a viable option until you consider you're either getting him for only one year or you're going to have to pay him too much for too long if you sign an extension. Any top quality FA goalie falls in the same bucket as Helle: They will cost too much for too long. It's easier and more practical to improve the defense and KA has already taken steps there, with perhaps more coming. And as I alluded to, I think his strategy is to put a good team in front of whatever goalie we have, good enough that the goalie isn't the linchpin holding the team together. Having a hero goalie is fun but being able to win games without the heroics in goal is more what Kevyn is after I think. Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 Way too much term for a guy who has regressed. We need a 2-3 year bridge guy with Levi. Gibson was my desperation goalie when we had nobody. 1 Quote
B-U-F-F-A-L-O Posted July 5, 2023 Report Posted July 5, 2023 15 hours ago, sweetlou said: According to a report by Frak Seravalli, John Gibson asked for a trade and said, "I am not playing another game for the Anaheim Ducks". John Gibson Career Stats GP GS W L T OT SA GA GAA S S% SO MIN 2013-2014 ANA 3 3 3 0 -- 0 87 4 1.33 83 .954 1 181:07 2014-2015 ANA 23 21 13 8 -- 0 674 58 2.60 616 .914 1 1,339:55 2015-2016 ANA 40 38 21 13 -- 4 992 79 2.07 913 .920 4 2,294:40 2016-2017 ANA 52 49 25 16 -- 9 1,437 109. 2.22 1,328 .924 6 2,950:21 2017-2018 ANA 60 60 31 18 0 7 1,872 139 2.43 1,733 .926 4 3,428:29 2018-2019 ANA 58 57 26 22 0 8 1,838 153 2.84 1,685 .917 2 3,233:02 2019-2020 ANA 51 51 20 26 0 5 1,552 149 3.00 1,403 .904 1 2,981:17 2020-2021 ANA 35 35 9 19 0 7 1,042 101 2.98 941 .903 3 2,030:30 2021-2022 ANA 56 56 18 26 0 11 1,789 172 3.19 1,617 .904 1 3,235:35 2022-2023 ANA 53 52 14 31 0 8 1,983 200 3.99 1,783 .899 1 3,004:55 Career - 431 422 180 179 -- 59 13,266 1,164 2.83 12,102 .912 24 24,679:51 He has been a sub 3.00 GAA and better than .900 S% every year until Anaheim started their rebuild 2 years ago. He is a proven goaltender that can split time for two years with Levi and then be a solid back up option. Not sure what the cost would below since he has clearly demanded a trade. I would expect it to be UPL, 24 2nd rd pick and Joker/Olofsson. If they want a prospect like Rosen or Östlund, I would even do that, but then include Henrique Just throwing in Rosen or Östlund? LOL, that’s nuts. No thank you…. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 5, 2023 Report Posted July 5, 2023 I'd rather send Levi down to Rochester and roll with UPL and Comrie again than to acquire Gibson for 4 years of continued downward spiral until a buyout. 12 hours ago, Taro T said: But a reason why the backups look reasonable and the starter looks like trash, especially on one of the 3 worst teams in the league, is that the starter gets the bulk of the games against good teams which are significantly better than the skaters in front of him so he looks even worse than he should but the backups get to play against teams that are aren't significantly better than the skaters in front of them or maybe even that 1 or 2 teams that the Ducks are actually better than. Who you play against can go a long way towards making you look like a hero or a bum. I agree that the best goalie is going to get shelled on very bad teams, but to bring it local: Ullmark had the best numbers on a couple bad Sabres squads. You could see he was the best option even if the occasional Houser came along and had a great game. With Gibson it's constant. The last time he led his team in sv% was 2016-17 (7 seasons ago!) when they were a very good 1st place team with a very sturdy d-corps. Ryan Miller wasn't even on the Ducks yet. And technically, Gibson wasn't the leader that season because our very own Dustin Tokarski had a 5-save appearance and ended the season with 1.00sv% and 0.0 GAA in 10 minutes of game time. 1 Quote
ShadowOnTheDoor Posted July 5, 2023 Report Posted July 5, 2023 23 hours ago, kas23 said: I just don’t see how this would be at all possible. He is owed $6.4M for the next 4 years. Even if they retain 50%, it still doesn’t make sense. At this rate, it would’ve been smarter to sign Ullmark for a 6 year contract. As an aside, I find it ridiculous how players demand trades when they signed a guaranteed contract. Shouldn’t have signed for such long term then. I also don’t believe the agent here. That’s damage control…for himself. Best thing would be to terminate the contract, but the agent will do anything to prevent that. If they pick up 50%, I'm doing it Quote
Curt Posted July 5, 2023 Report Posted July 5, 2023 2 hours ago, ShadowOnTheDoor said: If they pick up 50%, I'm doing it By “doing it” do you mean taking Gibson for free? Quote
Night Train Posted July 6, 2023 Report Posted July 6, 2023 " Wait.. I've HEARD of him ! " Yuck.. 2 Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 6, 2023 Report Posted July 6, 2023 19 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: Dustin Tokarski had a 5-save appearance and ended the season with 1.00sv% and 0.0 GAA in 10 minutes of game time. No Toke over the line? Sweet Jesus! 1 Quote
MBD Posted July 6, 2023 Report Posted July 6, 2023 On 7/4/2023 at 11:58 AM, Doohickie said: See, this is why Kevyn has said he's good with what we currently have. There are other options out there but as you explore them none of them are really what he's looking for. Gibson is at best average. He would be okay in a mentoring role like Anderson, but probably doesn't have 40-50 quality games in him. Helle is a viable option until you consider you're either getting him for only one year or you're going to have to pay him too much for too long if you sign an extension. Any top quality FA goalie falls in the same bucket as Helle: They will cost too much for too long. It's easier and more practical to improve the defense and KA has already taken steps there, with perhaps more coming. And as I alluded to, I think his strategy is to put a good team in front of whatever goalie we have, good enough that the goalie isn't the linchpin holding the team together. Having a hero goalie is fun but being able to win games without the heroics in goal is more what Kevyn is after I think. Helle for 1 year would be fine while Levi gets his feet frozen. The question is compensation. 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 6, 2023 Report Posted July 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, MBD said: Helle for 1 year would be fine while Levi gets his feet frozen. The question is compensation. EXACTLY. Kevyn is not going to pay an arm and a leg for a one year rental, and he doesn't want to give Helle a max term extension. So many people think that this is fantasy sports where you can just arbitrarily put a team together with whatever players you want. Real life doesn't work that way. 1 Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.