Draft Starts Wednesday (7pm ESPN) - What's your predictions for the Sabres top 4 picks

[Buffalonill]

55 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Also I like how you just completely discount moves you don't like. They added Greenway at the deadline and tried on Chychrun. You accusing me a loser mentality is farce considering your lost a bet claiming this team was such a bunch of losers they would finish bottom 5.

The fanbase has been waiting for a decade for playoffs so we have something to cheer for and the players deserved it and a out of shape Greenway was the answer.

 That's unacceptable

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

Ok our they could have gotten a taste and maybe went on a run .

Like I said anything can happen in the playoffs 

The Sabres will make the playoffs this year, so we'll see. 

[Buffalonill]

52 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

That... Then refused to pay up on said bet. Pay up to the charity @Buffalonill

I won't pay a charity. 

I will buy him  Liquor easily

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Buffalonill said:

The fanbase has been waiting for a decade for playoffs so we have something to cheer for and the players deserved it and a out of shape Greenway was the answer.

 That's unacceptable

The youngest team in the league needed to learn, and learn they did. Adding random player X doesn't change the equation much. 

Sometimes, it's better to let someone fail and learn than it is to give them a solution that saves their ass.

[Buffalonill]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The Sabres will make the playoffs this year, so we'll see. 

You're correct.

But they could have easily made it last year also to be more ready for what's to come 

[Buffalonill]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The youngest team in the league needed to learn, and learn they did. Adding random player X doesn't change the equation much. 

Sometimes, it's better to let someone fail and learn than it is to give them a solution that saves their ass.

They didn't though let's say they got  Embarrassed on national TV during the playoffs that's a failure  and Learning moment

That's gives you more fire 

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Buffalonill said:

They didn't though let's say they got  Embarrassed on national TV during the playoffs that's a failure  and Learning moment

That's gives you more fire 

They missed the playoffs by 1 point, they have plenty of fire.

[Thorner]

9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The youngest team in the league needed to learn, and learn they did. Adding random player X doesn't change the equation much. 

Sometimes, it's better to let someone fail and learn than it is to give them a solution that saves their ass.

Why do we fall, Bruce 

[Buffalonill]

10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

They missed the playoffs by 1 point, they have plenty of fire.

Ok I understand but the playoff experience is the most important part its a different game 

[LGR4GM]

12 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Why do we fall, Bruce 

So you can either die a hero, or see yourself live long enough to become the villain.

[JohnC]

3 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

He did nothing to help a playoff push got a player that wasn't in Shape 

Good move 

You are right that Greenway wasn't in the best condition. However, there was a reason for that. He was injured and because of it his conditioning wasn't at the top level. I'm confident that the second-round pick that was used to acquire him will turn out to be a good deal when he reports to camp in top shape. 

[Crusader1969]

3 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

There's other players in the league 

So you're ok with him giving up 

 

What other players that got traded would have moved the needle ?  

[Crusader1969]

1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:

You're correct.

But they could have easily made it last year also to be more ready for what's to come 

Easy? That’s laughable.  Who was out there besides Chychrun?  Ekholm maybe, but how do the Sabres beat the price paid by Edmonton?  Otherwise I don’t see the move he could have made 

And yes back to the thread 

Keep the pick. Draft a Russian. 

[Buffalonill]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

You are right that Greenway wasn't in the best condition. However, there was a reason for that. He was injured and because of it his conditioning wasn't at the top level. I'm confident that the second-round pick that was used to acquire him will turn out to be a good deal when he reports to camp in top shape. 

 I understand he will probably be in better shape and  perform better . My problem is they knew  Some people only have a short time to live and that's why I'm upset

Edited June 26, 2023 by Buffalonill

[LGR4GM]

I would note the Greenway pick is 64th. It's the worst a 2nd round pick could be. You hope you find a Greenway with a pick that late.

[Buffalonill]

38 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

What other players that got traded would have moved the needle ?  

I'm obviously a little under the beer but  There was quite a few defenses that we probably would have taken that could have helped the playoff push

[Marvin]

What time is the draft on Wednesday?  And who is carrying it on radio, TV, and streaming?

[GASabresIUFAN]

3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

 I understand he will probably be in better shape and  perform better . My problem is they knew  Some people only have a short time to live and that's why I'm upset

Of course they knew.  That's why he only cost a 2nd.  They had a qtr of the season to work him into the culture by a coach Greenway respects.  This season he knows what the brass expect and he's been given a new lease of his hockey life in an excellent situation.  The Greenway trade was always about this season.  

 

  

[Taro T]

6 minutes ago, Marvin said:

What time is the draft on Wednesday?  And who is carrying it on radio, TV, and streaming?

ESPN - 7PM-10PM

[Taro T]

Rounds 2-7 11AM-3PM - NHLN

on Thursday

Edited June 26, 2023 by Taro T

[Taro T]

@Marvin just wanted to make sure you saw the correction.  The 1st rebroadcast of rounds 2-7 is on at 6:30PM.  The live broadcast is at 11AM.  Sorry for the confusion.

[Buffalonill]

27 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Of course they knew.  That's why he only cost a 2nd.  They had a qtr of the season to work him into the culture by a coach Greenway respects.  This season he knows what the brass expect and he's been given a new lease of his hockey life in an excellent situation.  The Greenway trade was always about this season.  

 

  

That's my problem  they played it safe knowing they could make the playoffs 

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:

 I understand he will probably be in better shape and  perform better . My problem is they knew  Some people only have a short time to live and that's why I'm upset

So are you suggesting that the GM should make expedient moves that in the end sets the team back. That line of short-term thinking has crippled this organization for almost a generation. This team made a quantum leap forward last season from the prior season, a jump of 16 pts. You find it to be unsatisfactory. That makes no sense. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:

That's my problem  they played it safe knowing they could make the playoffs 

While I would have liked to see a top 4 D acquired, at the deadline, I have long believed the best GMs use the trade deadline not only to bolster the team that season but in the seasons beyond. 

Greenway did help last season.  He got better with each game and his 4 goals were a higher season pace (19-goal pace) than ever before.  The move also gave us 2 additional years of Greenways services at a minimum. 

Frankly, it was the goaltending that failed us and that wasn't fixable at the deadline.

Honestly, I don't believe that KA thought the team entering last season was a playoff caliber team.  The maturity and improvement of the forwards I think took him by surprise and accelerated his rebuild.  I don't think he'll be making that mistake this off-season.  

 

[Zamboni]

7 hours ago, Marvin said:

What time is the draft on Wednesday?  And who is carrying it on radio, TV, and streaming?

It should be in the thread title. Should be.