Brawndo Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) This one hurts. He has been great for forward development Edited June 20, 2023 by Brawndo 1 1 Quote
dudacek Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 I mean it’s a promotion, but living in New York, working with Drury and Laviolette? Yuck. He’ll come home eventually. 4 Quote
Taro T Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, Brawndo said: This one hurts. He has been great for forward development Good for him. But not happy to see him moving outside the organization. Maybe he comes back to take Appert's role when he either moves up in Buffalo or takes a position elsewhere. Would be a logical next step prior to getting a HC gig in the show. 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 Sad to see him go Happy his career is moving forward Future head coach of the Buffalo Sabres? Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 Buffalo is dumb for not Promoting him . Let's keep all the coaches that sucked last year wtf 5 1 Quote
kas23 Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: Buffalo is dumb for not Promoting him . Let's keep all the coaches that sucked last year wtf I don’t know what we would promote him to. We already have a HC for the Amerks. An assistant coach for the Sabres? As much as our defensive woes, I think Muel, Dahlin, and Power are developing well. Coaching previously stunted Dahlin considerably. Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, kas23 said: I don’t know what we would promote him to. We already have a HC for the Amerks. An assistant coach for the Sabres? As much as our defensive woes, I think Muel, Dahlin, and Power are developing well. Coaching previously stunted Dahlin considerably. I thought they fire everyone but Granato at some point they have stop being buddy- buddy and Focusing on Championships Edited June 18, 2023 by Buffalonill 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, kas23 said: I don’t know what we would promote him to. We already have a HC for the Amerks. An assistant coach for the Sabres? As much as our defensive woes, I think Muel, Dahlin, and Power are developing well. Coaching previously stunted Dahlin considerably. No reason not to have another Sabres assistant. Teach some of these guys how to win a face off for one. 1 2 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 I object if only on the basis that it imperils our ability to claim “Mike Peca is Bigger Than Your Peca.” My favourite Aud sign ever. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 Seems to me that a Peca type former player is exactly what the Sabres need to develop a better defensive structure to help reduce the high quality scoring chances they give up....especially inside their own zone. I'd like to see them try to retain him. Quote
Pimlach Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 This says might. Maybe Adams is working on the "what will it take to make you stay" part of it. @Buffalonill is correct that we could use him on the Sabres right now. 1 Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalonill said: I thought they fire everyone but Granato at some point they have stop being buddy- buddy and Focusing on Championships I know you say stuff like this just to say it, but the Sabres improved by 16 points with the youngest team in the league and missed the dance by a win. The staff here suits the team they have. 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said: I know you say stuff like this just to say it, but the Sabres improved by 16 points with the youngest team in the league and missed the dance by a win. The staff here suits the team they have. So that's what was lacking...focus! All we need is more focus. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said: I know you say stuff like this just to say it, but the Sabres improved by 16 points with the youngest team in the league and missed the dance by a win. The staff here suits the team they have. Did you miss how they folded? This is what's wrong with some in this Fanbase we have accepted participation awards . Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Did you miss how they folded? This is what's wrong with some in this Fanbase we have accepted participation awards . Folded? No I missed that part. I do remember finishing the season 9-2-1. Maybe you're thinking of Ottawa and Detroit? 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Folded? No I missed th part. I do remember finishing the season 9-2-1. Maybe you're thinking of Ottawa and Detroit? Oh so you missed the games where they blew leads and lost 9 in a row? Or them going 2-10 February-March? But hey they went 9-2 classic buffalo fashion ( every one forgets February/march) Edited June 18, 2023 by Buffalonill Quote
Eleven Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Porous Five Hole said: I know you say stuff like this just to say it, but the Sabres improved by 16 points with the youngest team in the league and missed the dance by a win. The staff here suits the team they have. 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: So that's what was lacking...focus! All we need is more focus. This doesn't mean the coaching staff is right for this team (I know PTR is being tongue-in-cheek). Granato is a development coach who has serious problems to address when it comes to tactics and maybe strategy as well, and that has permeated the rest of the coaching staff (as it naturally should). I'm not sure that Peca is the answer to the problem or that he would be a good "coach-whisperer," but Granato is out of his depth often enough. The fact that he's the best the Sabres have managed since firing Ruff is of no moment; I think he's already done what he's good at. IF--and that's an IF--Peca is the right guy to take over in-game tactics, promote him; otherwise, gotta let him chase his dream. 1 1 Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Eleven said: This doesn't mean the coaching staff is right for this team (I know PTR is being tongue-in-cheek). Granato is a development coach who has serious problems to address when it comes to tactics and maybe strategy as well, and that has permeated the rest of the coaching staff (as it naturally should). I'm not sure that Peca is the answer to the problem or that he would be a good "coach-whisperer," but Granato is out of his depth often enough. The fact that he's the best the Sabres have managed since firing Ruff is of no moment; I think he's already done what he's good at. IF--and that's an IF--Peca is the right guy to take over in-game tactics, promote him; otherwise, gotta let him chase his dream. Just because Meatballs hasn’t had anything at the nhl level to work with other than a developing team doesn’t mean that’s all he knows. I’m willing to give him some latitude to see how he evolves as his team does. This team doesn’t have a problem scoring goals. Defending at the NHL level with a bunch of young D and young forwards will come with experience. It’s not like this team has a ton of experienced two-way forwards and they’re failing compared to previous results. Plus goaltending has been replacement level for his entire tenure. Im optimistic. 1 Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: Oh so you missed the games where they blew leads and lost 9 in a row? Or them going 2-10 February-March? But hey they went 9-2 classic buffalo fashion ( every one forgets February/march) The youngest team in the NHL was inconsistent while sporting nearly league-worst goaltending. And still found its way to 91 points (the most since 2010-11). But it’s because the coaching staff is to “buddy, buddy.” You really nailed it. 3 Quote
Eleven Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said: I’m willing to give him some latitude to see how he evolves as his team does. I can agree with this, but if he doesn't start making smarter in-game decisions and if the team is floundering by December, I'll want him out. (That is assuming that the team isn't dealing with personnel problems that are Adams's, rather than Granato's, job.) Edited June 18, 2023 by Eleven Quote
Hank Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said: The youngest team in the NHL was inconsistent while sporting nearly league-worst goaltending. And still found its way to 91 points (the most since 2010-11). But it’s because the coaching staff is to “buddy, buddy.” You really nailed it. I was going to say something like this. The goalies being substandard was a huge talking (bitching) point throughout the season. The defense lacking depth and experience was a huge talking (bitching) point throughout the season. Those deficiencies were not on Granato to address. We had the youngest team in the league, were among the highest scoring teams in the league, and improved by 16 points with an abnormally high number of rookies/1st year players. How anyone can say Granato did not do an adequate coaching job given what he had to work with seems nonsensical to me. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said: The youngest team in the NHL was inconsistent while sporting nearly league-worst goaltending. And still found its way to 91 points (the most since 2010-11). But it’s because the coaching staff is to “buddy, buddy.” You really nailed it. Are we really going to use this excuse every freaking time "youngest team in the NHL" its been A decade without playoffs Give me a freaking break they had 4 guys 20+ and the rest ***** men What's the next Excuse they're too old ? Quote
Eleven Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hank said: I was going to say something like this. The goalies being substandard was a huge talking (bitching) point throughout the season. The defense lacking depth and experience was a huge talking (bitching) point throughout the season. Those deficiencies were not on Granato to address. We had the youngest team in the league, were among the highest scoring teams in the league, and improved by 16 points with an abnormally high number of rookies/1st year players. How anyone can say Granato did not do an adequate coaching job given what he had to work with seems nonsensical to me. I can agree with everything but your last sentence here. Granato's refusal to change goalies (at all or until too late), refusal to pull goalies until too late, and line decisions in-game were worth at least a win. Quote
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