Marvin Posted June 22, 2023 Report Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, #freejame said: One of the Athletics national writers had Pesce (with extension) for Östlund and Philly 2nd. Panned in the comments by Canes fans, but I’d certainly do it. For an extended Pesce, that is way too light. The more likely idea has something better going Carolina's way. 1 Quote
freester Posted June 23, 2023 Report Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Marvin said: For an extended Pesce, that is way too light. The more likely idea has something better going Carolina's way. I think his high contract demands will lower his trade value. 2 Quote
dudacek Posted June 23, 2023 Report Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Marvin said: For an extended Pesce, that is way too light. The more likely idea has something better going Carolina's way. I think people sometimes forget Östlund was the 16th pick in the draft less than a year ago and has held his value. The suggested return is close to what Ekholm got and better than what Provorov got and both those guys have term. Neither of them returned an asset as good as Östlund. It’s almost identical to what Hronek got. Pesce is good, but he’s not Slavin or Dougie Hamilton. Its not light at all. Edited June 23, 2023 by dudacek 2 3 Quote
Taro T Posted June 23, 2023 Report Posted June 23, 2023 11 hours ago, dudacek said: I think people sometimes forget Östlund was the 16th pick in the draft less than a year ago and has held his value. The suggested return is close to what Ekholm got and better than what Provorov got and both those guys have term. Neither of them returned an asset as good as Östlund. It’s almost identical to what Hronek got. Pesce is good, but he’s not Slavin or Dougie Hamilton. Its not light at all. Out of sight, out of mind. Quote
shrader Posted June 23, 2023 Report Posted June 23, 2023 21 hours ago, GoPuckYourself said: I'm not sure, did Eric hate it here? I know he wanted to win but did he say he hated being here? It was most likely a rumor at this point but we wont find a much better face off guy than him imo. He very obviously didn't give a ***** while on the ice here. 1 1 Quote
kas23 Posted June 23, 2023 Report Posted June 23, 2023 22 hours ago, thewookie1 said: I believe he hated being traded here but in my opinion it had more to do with being traded than the location. Correct. He was caught off guard by being traded. Said him and his family were settled in and had to think about it. Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 23, 2023 Report Posted June 23, 2023 5 hours ago, shrader said: He very obviously didn't give a ***** while on the ice here. That isn't the debate though. Quote
shrader Posted June 23, 2023 Report Posted June 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said: That isn't the debate though. There’s a debate? Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 2 hours ago, shrader said: There’s a debate? Maybe not debate but wasn't what I was asking? Quote
Eleven Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 3 hours ago, shrader said: There’s a debate? Yes. I can get you tickets. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 Anyone think Peyton Krebs coud be the one traded for the defenseman Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Anyone think Peyton Krebs coud be the one traded for the defenseman Nope. Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Nope. Have to give up something good to land a top 4 D Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Have to give up something good to land a top 4 D With the re-signing of both KO and Z I don't see KA trading any of the forward roster players. I think he even said he was looking to re-sign Jost as well. And why not, they were the 3rd highest scoring team in the league last season and the kids are only going to develop and grow more. If anything, I see prospects (not top end) and draft picks as the capitol to address the D. Most likely at the draft. That's just my take on it though, but who knows, it could happen. Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, Scottysabres said: With the re-signing of both KO and Z I don't see KA trading any of the forward roster players. I think he even said he was looking to re-sign Jost as well. And why not, they were the 3rd highest scoring team in the league last season and the kids are only going to develop and grow more. If anything, I see prospects (not top end) and draft picks as the capitol to address the D. Most likely at the draft. That's just my take on it though, but who knows, it could happen. What prospects do you think they're trading? Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, Buffalonill said: What prospects do you think they're trading? Well, I can't see Kulich, Savoie or Ostland being moved, to soon is my guess as KA most likely likes what he's seen from Kulich and Savoie and Ostland really need to be assessed more beyond their current leagues and maturity. Just my opinion is all though. I also can't see the 13th over all being moved either, since KA's mantra is draft and develop. I really see the 2nd rd picks and B prospects as the capitol in the organization. He used Josh Bloom last season for example. But again, it's just me guessing based on those things. Also, I I'm really not tethered to big names like Pesce and Hanifin. I see Murphy out of Chicago as a more reasonable situation given contract $ and term. A deal something along those lines is my hunch. But again, who knows really? KA, that's who lol 2 Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 The Athletic mentioned that the Hurricanes and Pesce are getting closer to an extension in a post this AM. Also mentioned the Sabres and Florida are in on Hanifin 1 1 Quote
JohnC Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Anyone think Peyton Krebs coud be the one traded for the defenseman No. Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Brawndo said: The Athletic mentioned that the Hurricanes and Pesce are getting closer to an extension in a post this AM. Also mentioned the Sabres and Florida are in on Hanifin Hanifin to Florida is just unfair 😒 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Hanifin to Florida is just unfair 😒 Florida doesn’t have a first round pick until 2026 and they are not exactly flush with prospects. The Sabres should be able to beat any offer from Florida. Edited June 24, 2023 by Brawndo 2 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Florida doesn’t have a first round pick until 2026 and there are not exactly flush with prospects. The Sabres should be able to beat any offer from Florida. They could give them Lundell Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: They could give them Lundell And the Sabres could trade them Quinn, JJP or Kulich. And neither team would do that. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: And the Sabres could trade them Quinn, JJP or Kulich. And neither team would do that. What do you think the cost is ? VO and a 1st isn't getting him Quote
Turbo44 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 Something like Rosen, a 2023 2nd and a 2024 2nd May get it done. The 2024 might have to be a conditional 1st. he’d have to be willing to sign an extension with Buffalo, something like 6 years at $7m per. Calgary prob has to trade him as he’s in the final year of his contract and has told them he’s not resigning Quote
Turbo44 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Posted June 24, 2023 If not Hanafin (who’s really only average in the d-zone) how about Tanev? He has a 10 team no trade but is ELITE defensively, which is exactly what we need. He is 33 but has 2 years left on a very reasonable contract 3 Quote
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