LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) On 6/28/2023 at 1:02 PM, LabattBlue said: You never know who might be available. There can be a lot of value in a quality 3C. Right now candidates for 3C are Jost, Krebs and …. Expand Jost, Krebs, Mitts, Savoie. There isn't more value in using a 13th overall pick to upgrade over any of those 4. For the 45th overall pick, sure but using a 13th overall to upgrade Mitts or Krebs to ...idk declining ROR type is just meh. Edited June 28, 2023 by LGR4GM 1 Quote
sweetlou Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 Still think they will draft a d-man with #13 and try and sign a UFA for 2 years to plug in with Power. Thye don't want to sign a proven 4th d-man to a long term contract and block any of their young players. Not what I would do, just the philosophy KA has. Quote
LabattBlue Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:07 PM, sweetlou said: Still think they will draft a d-man with #13 and try and sign a UFA for 2 years to plug in with Power. Thye don't want to sign a proven 4th d-man to a long term contract and block any of their young players. Not what I would do, just the philosophy KA has. Expand Thou shalt not block. Quote
Curt Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:02 PM, LabattBlue said: You never know who might be available. There can be a lot of value in a quality 3C. Right now candidates for 3C are Jost, Krebs and …. Expand Mittelstadt Quote
LabattBlue Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:09 PM, Curt said: Mittelstadt Expand If there is a player available who is a lockdown center, excels at faceoffs and PK, and can chip in 15 goals and 40-50 points, I would trade 13 in a heartbeat. There is no one on the roster to fill that role, and the money KA wasted on KO and Girgs should have gone to fill this role. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:24 PM, LabattBlue said: If there is a player available who is a lockdown center, excels at faceoffs and PK, and can chip in 15 goals and 40-50 points, I would trade 13 in a heartbeat. There is no one on the roster to fill that role, and the money KA wasted on KO and Girgs should have gone to fill this role. Expand What is Casey Mittelstadt for 1,000 Alex. Also, this is laughable. Seriously. The Sabres have 14million in capspace with basically the only thing left to do is sign a top 4 RHD. To replace Kyle and Zemgus you are looking at paying someone else at minimum 1mil so that covers 2mil of the 5mil they are getting for 1 year. You are essentially saying that we couldn't sign a 3c because we don't have 3extra million bucks on top of the 14million we currently have. It makes no sense. We could sign any 3c on the market right now for 8million bucks and still have money left over. 1 Quote
Eleven Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:40 PM, LGR4GM said: basically the only thing left to do is sign a top 4 RHD. Expand Not quite. There's a spot in net, too. 2 1 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:42 PM, Eleven said: Not quite. There's a spot in net, too. Expand I don't think they are in the market for a goalie and if they are, 1 or both of Comrie and UPL are out. Quote
Eleven Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:43 PM, LGR4GM said: I don't think they are in the market for a goalie and if they are, 1 or both of Comrie and UPL are out. Expand They should be and one of them should be gone, and if it's both (because waivers), well, it's both. I don't want to derail and I've argued this enough other places though. Quote
Curt Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:24 PM, LabattBlue said: If there is a player available who is a lockdown center, excels at faceoffs and PK, and can chip in 15 goals and 40-50 points, I would trade 13 in a heartbeat. There is no one on the roster to fill that role, and the money KA wasted on KO and Girgs should have gone to fill this role. Expand There are not many players who actually fit that description, I can’t think of any who have been mentioned as available, and I think that most of them are really 2nd line centers. So a guy like Charlie Coyle or Yanni Gourde? For 13 OA? 2 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:43 PM, LGR4GM said: I don't think they are in the market for a goalie and if they are, 1 or both of Comrie and UPL are out. Expand With Friedman’s Report of the number of available goalies, they better be 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 3:40 PM, Brawndo said: With Friedman’s Report of the number of available goalies, they better be Expand I agree, I think they should be. That said, it basically means either putting UPL as the 3rd goalie or trading him. Quote
Derrico Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 4:06 PM, LGR4GM said: I agree, I think they should be. That said, it basically means either putting UPL as the 3rd goalie or trading him. Expand Yup Maybe it’s my bias of watching him get lit up like a Christmas tree when the leafs came to down but I’m ready to start winning now. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 I would rather have Zemgus and Okposo for 1 year than this: my issue here being a 4yr term Quote
Taro T Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 3:04 AM, JohnC said: There are too many pleasurable things to think about before hitting the sack. Ruminating over one of my hockey questions shouldn't be one of them. Sleep well and refresh yourself for tomorrow. It is going to be an exciting day for Sabre fans. 🍷 Expand Looking like the question is now moot if the rumors of Hannifan to FLA are accurate. Personally, would prefer them getting Graves over either of the other 2 because the acquisition cost is only money. Pesce would probably be the better fit of the 2 you asked about but even though that's the case expect my choice of the 2 would be Hannifan. Can't really give a good explanation for why other than him being younger. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 4:31 PM, Taro T said: Looking like the question is now moot if the rumors of Hannifan to FLA are accurate. Personally, would prefer them getting Graves over either of the other 2 because the acquisition cost is only money. Pesce would probably be the better fit of the 2 you asked about but even though that's the case expect my choice of the 2 would be Hannifan. Can't really give a good explanation for why other than him being younger. Expand It was from a parody account 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:45 PM, Eleven said: They should be and one of them should be gone, and if it's both (because waivers), well, it's both. I don't want to derail and I've argued this enough other places though. Expand Exactly. Getting a veteran goalie should be on KA’s to do list right after getting a partner for Power. I do think UPL is tradeable and Comrie waived (he’ll likely clear) to Rochester as the no. 3. Quote
Eleven Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) On 6/28/2023 at 5:10 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: Exactly. Getting a veteran goalie should be on KA’s to do list right after getting a partner for Power. I do think UPL is tradeable and Comrie waived (he’ll likely clear) to Rochester as the no. 3. Expand It would be an absolute dream to have a good vet (I'm talking Saros/Helly here, MAYBE a Hart type) and Levi in Buffalo and Comrie in Rochester, with some sort of D prospect return for UPL (or UPL included in the consideration for the incoming goalie). A dream. If Adams pulls that off, I immediately upgrade him from a marginal C to a solid B. Edited June 28, 2023 by Eleven 1 Quote
JohnC Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 4:31 PM, Taro T said: Looking like the question is now moot if the rumors of Hannifan to FLA are accurate. Personally, would prefer them getting Graves over either of the other 2 because the acquisition cost is only money. Pesce would probably be the better fit of the 2 you asked about but even though that's the case expect my choice of the 2 would be Hannifan. Can't really give a good explanation for why other than him being younger. Expand Thanks for the response. Even if the Hannifan report was from a parody source you did answer the question. Quote
Eleven Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 4:31 PM, Taro T said: Personally, would prefer them getting Graves over either of the other 2 because the acquisition cost is only money. Pesce would probably be the better fit of the 2 you asked about but even though that's the case expect my choice of the 2 would be Hannifan. Can't really give a good explanation for why other than him being younger. Expand And here's where your idea of putting the draft behind the opening of the FA period comes in...if Adams could sign Graves now, he wouldn't have to hedge his bets on trading picks. 1 Quote
MISabresFan Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 The NHL draft is tricky, like MLB. Unlike NFL and NBA, most drafted do not hit the big club for a year or two. It would help if you looked at all your players, from NHL down. Look at the numbers (#centermen, # wingers, #rhd, #lhd,...) and fill them thru the draft where you think you are short. As we have seen, sometimes relying on free agency does not work. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 1:58 PM, Curt said: So a guy like Charlie Coyle or Yanni Gourde? For 13 OA? Expand Nice idea, but neither is moving. Never say never but near impossible. Quote
Curt Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 7:03 PM, PerreaultForever said: Nice idea, but neither is moving. Never say never but near impossible. Expand Yeah, there are not many players who fit that mold, and I’m not sure it makes sense to trade 13 OA for a guy like that. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 It's a pipe dream to think KA is going to make a major move at forward. He is going to re-sign Jost and after that, trading VO is the most likely move and that isn't a sure thing. Even if VO is traded, all that does is either open a 3rd line wing or a 4th line center position. Either job will most likely be filled with some like Rousek or Kulich or Savoie. The team scored 300 goals last year. KA is expecting further improvement from JJP, Quinn, Krebs, and Greenway. I agree with him that not much needs to done upfront after the vets were re-signed. The defense and goaltending are another matter and this is where he should be concentrating his efforts. I admit though that I'd love to see him move up and grab Michkov in the draft. He is a franchise-level talent. Sign Orlov, Sign Fred Andersen or Korpisalo or Varlamov, re-sign Dahlin and Power and trade up for Michkov. If he does all that KA will have had an amazing off-season and the Sabres will be contenders for years to come because of those efforts. Quote
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