Brawndo Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) Edited June 8, 2023 by Brawndo 2 1 Quote
Curt Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 Haven’t heard much about Power signing an extension. I get the feeling that he is going to wait until next offseason. Mitts signing a shorter extension (2-4 years) would be interesting. Don’t see extensions like that signed a year early very often. Quote
Thorner Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 They kinda *didnt* lock up Dahlin, early, like they could have, like we are trying to see Adams do with his core, so I’d imagine he’s pushing quite hard for Power this summer so he doesn’t end up getting 10+ as well Dahlin at 10 would still be fair (more than, really) so considering some of the other good contracts we have I don’t see that as an issue at all. Especially not with the “no 10 mil player has ever won a cup” barrier likely falling this very playoffs Quote
Curt Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Thorny said: They kinda *didnt* lock up Dahlin, early, like they could have, like we are trying to see Adams do with his core, so I’d imagine he’s pushing quite hard for Power this summer so he doesn’t end up getting 10+ as well Dahlin at 10 would still be fair (more than, really) so considering some of the other good contracts we have I don’t see that as an issue at all. Especially not with the “no 10 mil player has ever won a cup” barrier likely falling this very playoffs I’m so glad that trope will die either way this season. Florida has Barkov and Bobrovsky both at $10M and Tkachuk at $9.5M. Vegas has Eichel at $10M, Stone at $9.5, Pieteangelo at $8.8. 1 1 Quote
Thorner Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Curt said: I’m so glad that trope will die either way this season. Florida has Barkov and Bobrovsky both at $10M and Tkachuk at $9.5M. Vegas has Eichel at $10M, Stone at $9.5, Pieteangelo at $8.8. Was only a matter of time Quote
pastajoe Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 I’m still hoping they use Mitts in a trade to acquire a top 4 D if they don’t get a UFA. Move him while he still has value. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, pastajoe said: I’m still hoping they use Mitts in a trade to acquire a top 4 D if they don’t get a UFA. Move him while he still has value. W/ the rumours he’s headed for a shorter term deal, if those are true at all it definitely leaves the option open Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, pastajoe said: I’m still hoping they use Mitts in a trade to acquire a top 4 D if they don’t get a UFA. Move him while he still has value. Mitts value is concave up my friend, "still" is inappropriate here 2 Quote
... Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 He'd have more value if he proves himself to be a valuable playoff asset. Of course, at that point we might wind up keeping him around. Quote
tom webster Posted June 8, 2023 Report Posted June 8, 2023 I have to admit, I was wrong about Casey. I think he’ll be here another two or three years. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 9, 2023 Author Report Posted June 9, 2023 Evolving Hockey has Power most likely deal at 6 years 6.6 Million AAV and predicts an 8 year 7.6 Million AAV as the second most likely deal. Mittelstadt has a two year extension at 3.76 million AAV as most likely and six year 5.55 million AAV as the second most likely option 1 Quote
klos1963 Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 4 hours ago, pastajoe said: I’m still hoping they use Mitts in a trade to acquire a top 4 D if they don’t get a UFA. Move him while he still has value. He was one of our top players the last month or so. I would really like to keep him. 1 2 Quote
Hank Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Evolving Hockey has Power most likely deal at 6 years 6.6 Million AAV and predicts an 8 year 7.6 Million AAV as the second most likely deal. Mittelstadt has a two year extension at 3.76 million AAV as most likely and six year 5.55 million AAV as the second most likely option Power is still an RFA after six years? Quote
Brawndo Posted June 9, 2023 Author Report Posted June 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hank said: Power is still an RFA after six years? No he would be an UFA at that point Quote
Hank Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 Just now, Brawndo said: No he would be an UFA at that point Ouch. Hard pass on a six year deal then. 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: Mitts value is concave up my friend, "still" is inappropriate here Exactly right. Look at Eich and Reino in the playoffs. Mitts will elevate in a similar fashion, I'm convinced of it. Getting rid of him when we're just entering our playoff window would be a poor move. Also, he provides high level forward depth even while he's contributing on the 3rd line. Lose 1C or 2C for a few games and the team doesn't miss a beat with Casey at the bat. 4 Quote
Doohicksie Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, klos1963 said: He was one of our top players the last month or so. I would really like to keep him. Who will score the last goal of the season if they trade Mitts? Quote
inkman Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, klos1963 said: He was one of our top players the last month or so. I would really like to keep him. Yeah wonderful scoring depth that should come at great value 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 15 hours ago, Curt said: Haven’t heard much about Power signing an extension. I get the feeling that he is going to wait until next offseason. Mitts signing a shorter extension (2-4 years) would be interesting. Don’t see extensions like that signed a year early very often. What do you mean adams has said it about a billion times they want him long term Quote
Stoner Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 Lock them all up and make them rich. Zero playoff games. I know... It's how it's done. Doesn't make it not maddening. 1 1 Quote
JohnC Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 15 hours ago, pastajoe said: I’m still hoping they use Mitts in a trade to acquire a top 4 D if they don’t get a UFA. Move him while he still has value. Yes, he does have value to his team. That's an argument to keep him, not trade him. He has proven to be a versatile player who can play on the wing and center. He also has shown that he has the talent to move up to the top line and keep it playing at an exceptional level. Why would you want to deal this player that you developed and are now getting good production from? 1 Quote
Night Train Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 Draft and roster adjustments (possible trades) first. Then think of future contracts, once camp begins. Zero urgency now. Quote
Curt Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Buffalonill said: What do you mean adams has said it about a billion times they want him long term Yeah, you are right, Adams has definitely said that he wants to extend Power. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they will be able to come to an agreement though. I guess I was just hoping to hear that they were close on a deal or something like that. It’s still very early though, so I’m probably jumping the gun. Quote
French Collection Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Yes, he does have value to his team. That's an argument to keep him, not trade him. He has proven to be a versatile player who can play on the wing and center. He also has shown that he has the talent to move up to the top line and keep it playing at an exceptional level. Why would you want to deal this player that you developed and are now getting good production from? Once the talent in the pipeline is developed there may be a need to move Mitts due to cap issues, pressure from prospects or simply having trade value for something the Sabres need. His versatility (W or C, L1-3) is needed here. He also hasn’t hit his ceiling. Injuries have set him back a year in his development so he is just getting to the point where we can see what kind of player he is. If JJP, Quinn, Krebs, Kulich, Savoie, Rosen, Östlund all come close to their ceilings there will be moves to be made. 1 Quote
pastajoe Posted June 9, 2023 Report Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Yes, he does have value to his team. That's an argument to keep him, not trade him. He has proven to be a versatile player who can play on the wing and center. He also has shown that he has the talent to move up to the top line and keep it playing at an exceptional level. Why would you want to deal this player that you developed and are now getting good production from? Because they have plenty of offensive talent in the pipeline, but are lacking a top 4 D to pair with Power. He’s been inconsistent over his career and there’s no guarantee he won’t revert again. So strike while his stock is high, and solidify the D. We saw how they struggled when Samuelsson was injured. Quote
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