To Kane or not to Kane

[French Collection]

55 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

A rhetorical question:  if Kane wasn't a Buffalo native, would we even be having this conversation?

The only boxes he checks off are playoff experience and MAYBE wants to be in Buffalo. Not enough.

[Carmel Corn]

My vote is no, but if Pegula is desperate to find ways to sell more tickets, then I would not be surprised that they try to get him.

[...]

This is another manifestation of the "trade up for Bedard" discussion only with a different context and subject.

[mjd1001]

No.

I'm not a fan of him. I think hes on the downside of his career and the slide is getting quicker. Don't really see a good fit with this team.  Would much rather watch one of the young guys take any spot he would take.  So many reasons to not have him here.

Please no.

[PerreaultForever]

Well I guess if you are ditching Okposo and bringing in Kane on a team friendly deal to end his career at "home" I guess maybe, but really I'd say no overall. 

[msw2112]

He's a sure-fire first ballot Hall of Famer.  He's from Buffalo.  He was one of the top offensive players in the league in his prime.  At this point, he's on the decline.  He still has some of his famous "dangle" (one of the best ever), but he's slow, he doesn't offer anything defensively, he's small, and he's not a physical presence.  If you watched the NJ-NYR Game 7, the Devils players were flying all over the ice while the Rangers looked old and slow.  I'd rather see young and fast on the wings in Buffalo (Kulich, Peterka, Quinn, etc.) than old and slow.

[PromoTheRobot]

27 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Well I guess if you are ditching Okposo and bringing in Kane on a team friendly deal to end his career at "home" I guess maybe, but really I'd say no overall. 

You can't replace Okposo with Kane.

[tom webster]

4 hours ago, msw2112 said:

A rhetorical question:  if Kane wasn't a Buffalo native, would we even be having this conversation?

If he expressed interest, yes. I don’t think he’s coming here but I hate this “rhetorical question.”

[Zamboni]

This topic is about as fresh as posting giraffe GIFs in reference to TNT

and pretty much just as tired 😂

 

hard pass

[DarthEbriate]

3 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

I think both of these guys need another year before being effective NHL players.

Peterka's numbers in ROC were must better than Kulich's and he still struggled at times in the NHL. I think Kulich would struggle all year long as a 19yo.

Savoie has come on real strong as of late, so maybe he has a chance, but it's tough to ignore how he started the season. 

Maybe Kane can keep a spot warm for either of these too? 

No... But it opens up the possibility that he'd sign a contract that was friendlier to the team vs what he might get on the open market.

Savoie likely makes it as 12/13 next season because he can't play in ROC. I believe Kulich plays in ROC all next season except a toe-wetting 2-4 game stint.

But the folks who are blocking those two are youngsters themselves: JJP, Quinn, probably Rousek, probably Jost. Adding Kane is all about the role... (see below)

3 hours ago, Taro T said:

The team has 10 returning players (not counting Olofsson who IMHO won't be back this coming season) battling out for 9 spots in the top 9 plus there are kids like Savoie, Rousek, and Kulich who will get looks as well.

Who does Kane bump out of the lineup presuming he wouldn't be brought in specifically as a PP specialist?   (And why would a team with Thompson, Tuch, Cozens, Quinn, Skinner, Mittelstadt, Peterka, Krebs, Dahlin, and Power need another PP specialist?)

2 years ago the team could've used his offense.  Right now, that's the thing they're actually really good at generating.  Would much rather have a PK specialist 4C brought in.

Exactly.

It's about the role Kane plays. His comparable Sabres players are the PP-only forwards. Skinner, Quinn, Thompson, Mitts, JJP, and currently VO. While Kane might be better than VO: what's VO's current role? Healthy scratch. If they need another PP-only player they've got Savoie or even Kulich waiting in the wings.

[Zamboni]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

You can't replace Okposo with Kane.

Agree. Not comparable 

[Doohicksie]

6 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

is he going to hold up another players' development?

Yes, and Kevyn has been adamant about not blocking the young talent.  The only way I can see them picking up Kane would be if Okie, Girgs and Hinostroza, and maybe even Jost, are gone next year.

5 hours ago, msw2112 said:

A rhetorical question:  if Kane wasn't a Buffalo native, would we even be having this conversation?

Of course not.

[Doohicksie]

5 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

I think both of these guys need another year before being effective NHL players.

I disagree.  I think Kulich will be on the Sabres roster this season; if not in the beginning of the season, by Christmas.

[Doohicksie]

The first 6 or so seconds from where this is cued up illustrates where Kane is going in his career.  The rest is just funny to watch.

 

[Pimlach]

Savoie needs a place to play, why waste a slot on Kane?  We have a few prospects that we should look at before we really hit a log jam at forward.  

If we add an outside forward let’s get one that give us something we need.  Adam’s was interested in Tom Wilson, then he got Greenway.  Why not add another power forward?   When watching playoff hockey you see the need.  

Edited May 5, 2023 by Pimlach

[Sabres73]

I'm giving it a solid zero percent chance that Kane ever places for the Sabres. Give or take zero percent.

[bunomatic]

Taking on Pat Kane is like finally getting a shot at the hot girl from highschool when she’s twice divorced with grand kids and a smokers rasp. What you remember from highschool was the hottest she’d ever be. Its over. Don’t sully the fond memory of what could have been with what you’d wake up beside now. So its a no for me.

[SabresBillsFan]

No, he needs surgery this offseason and just doesn’t have the jump like he use to.

[French Collection]

19 minutes ago, bunomatic said:

Taking on Pat Kane is like finally getting a shot at the hot girl from highschool when she’s twice divorced with grand kids and a smokers rasp. What you remember from highschool was the hottest she’d ever be. Its over. Don’t sully the fond memory of what could have been with what you’d wake up beside now. So its a no for me.

Well that settles it, I was a no for Kane but now I’m afraid to attend high school reunions.

[JoeSchmoe]

Wow... A year ago I recall half the Sabrespacers wanting to give up assets for Kane. I was vehemently opposed to that. 

Now we can get him for nothing and not a single board member wants to kick the tires. I'm not sold on the idea one way or another, but I thought there'd be some back and forth. I guess not.

[sabremike]

6 hours ago, Zamboni said:

This topic is about as fresh as posting giraffe GIFs in reference to TNT

and pretty much just as tired 😂

 

hard pass

[Pimlach]

7 hours ago, Zamboni said:

This topic is about as fresh as posting giraffe GIFs in reference to TNT

and pretty much just as tired 😂

 

hard pass

[Sabres Super Fan]

7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

You can't replace Okposo with Kane.

Why not Patrick Kane is a major upgrade with Stanley Cup winning experience that too many Buffalo Sabres discount that. Which is one of the many reasons why the Buffalo Sabres are 12 years and counting out of the playoffs there are no standards everyone on the current Buffalo Sabres are greater than they actually are with some in the Buffalo Sabres fan base. The Buffalo Sabres franchise would be lucky if a player as talented and accomplished as Patrick Kane would like to play for the Buffalo Sabres to finish his NHL career. I don’t expect it to happen because PSE doesn’t care about winning or has any standards or shame for that matter in my opinion. Go Sabres! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[Doohicksie]

3 hours ago, bunomatic said:

Taking on Pat Kane is like finally getting a shot at the hot girl from highschool when she’s twice divorced with grand kids and a smokers rasp. What you remember from highschool was the hottest she’d ever be. Its over. Don’t sully the fond memory of what could have been with what you’d wake up beside now. So its a no for me.

I have never seen a more apt analogy.

I was think something along the lines of hiring Abe Simpson as a mercenary to fight in the Ukraine but I like yours better.

Edited May 6, 2023 by Doohickie

[PerreaultForever]

8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

You can't replace Okposo with Kane.

Comparable as veterans past their prime. Kane would still provide veteran leadership. Maybe a different kind, but still a has been veteran leader. There's room for one or two on the roster maybe but no more.