Buffalonill Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Berglund another X buffalo player that quit on the team And beat his wife Edited April 25, 2023 by Buffalonill 7 Quote
Randall Flagg Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 Tage puts in more work for this organization in a day than that guy did for his entire half of a year as a Sabre 6 2 Quote
Pimlach Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Tage was 18 or 19 when he first came to St Louis and Berglund was there. This is the first negative thing I have heard about Tage related to his time in St. Louis. Even if true, can we excuse an 18 year old kid for being perceived as arrogant? Sure we can, especially based on what we see for ourselves today. As for Berglund. He is known as a guy that did not work hard enough to achieve his talent/skill level in St Louis. He was inconsistent and he never took a leadership role. He was considered to be lazy. He was known to be an aloof guy off of the ice in St Louis, and fans were ecstatic to get rid of him and his terrible contract. Berglund gave nothing to his new team in Buffalo aside from walking away from a big contract. Which reflects on his mental state at the time. He should get ZERO credibility. Edited April 25, 2023 by Pimlach 5 2 Quote
French Collection Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Tage may have been immature and overconfident as a teenager but he is a model NHLer now. By all accounts he works extremely hard, is a husband who supported his wife through some major challenges and is now a father. He has overcome a lot of doubts to get where he is so he needed a lot of confidence in his abilities to get to his present level. Buffalo fans may be tainted by our views of Berglund but I just see him as a quitter. Edited April 25, 2023 by French Collection 3 5 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 The statement could be true but still means nothing. A lot of young kids come in full of themselves with high expectations of instant success and then they get knocked down to reality and how they deal with that partly determines their future. Clearly, Tage took some time adjusting to the game in the NHL, learning what he could and couldn't do, growing into his body. If there was some mental stuff in there too so what? He clearly put it all into place and has matured into a solid star player. What he does now matters, not what he did at 18. Berglund, on the other hand, as a fully developed man, had a hissy fit over being demoted for his crap play and rather than work to earn a higher spot quit and took his toys and went home to end his career. Now that's a legacy. 4 Quote
K-9 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, French Collection said: Tage may have been immature and overconfident as a teenager but he is a model NHLer now. By all accounts he works extremely hard, is a husband who supported his wife through some major challenges and is now a father. He has overcome a lot of doubts to get where he is so he needed a lot of confidence in his abilities to his present level. Buffalo fans may be tainted by our views of Berglund but I just see him as a quitter. Berglund never bought into getting traded to Buffalo. He was so saddened by it, he went into a deep depression as a result. It’s too bad Botts and Co. couldn’t vet him properly before acquiring him. He never would have had an opportunity to quit on a team that wanted him. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, K-9 said: Berglund never bought into getting traded to Buffalo. He was so saddened by it, he went into a deep depression as a result. It’s too bad Botts and Co. couldn’t vet him properly before acquiring him. He never would have had an opportunity to quit on a team that wanted him. Very true on the bolded. St Louis really wanted to get rid of him. He was overpaid for his contribution. He was not good for the room. He had been around for awhile, and although players liked him and he liked the town, he was not going to be a part of what they wanted to do. They had younger and more hardnosed forwards that made him expendable. Quote
irregularly irregular Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 Nothing like dredging up some ancient history to try to make yourself look better by tearing someone else down. His only problem is nobody cares even a little bit about what he thinks. Well, 2 problems in that now he has enhanced his status as a total douchebag. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 What do they say about people in glass houses? It’s a good thing that Tage worked to get better instead of emulating Berglund’s whine and go home example. 1 Quote
Xzy89c Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 how much money did he walk away from? Quote
Buffalonill Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Pimlach said: Tage was 18 or 19 when he first came to St Louis and Berglund was there. This is the first negative thing I have heard about Tage related to his time in St. Louis. Even if true, can we excuse an 18 year old kid for being perceived as arrogant? Sure we can, especially based on what we see for ourselves today. As for Berglund. He is known as a guy that did not work hard enough to achieve his talent/skill level in St Louis. He was inconsistent and he never took a leadership role. He was considered to be lazy. He was known to be an aloof guy off of the ice in St Louis, and fans were ecstatic to get rid of him and his terrible contract. Berglund gave nothing to his new team in Buffalo aside from walking away from a big contract. Which reflects on his mental state at the time. He should get ZERO credibility. Yea a guy that beats his wife shouldn't even get airtime. I'm not all about that cancel culture but that is absolutely disgusting that they let that Scum on the air Quote
Weave Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 Late last season (I think) I saw a podcast with a goalie that TnT played against in the AHL. Claimed that players on his team wanted to be on the ice against TnT. Whatever. He’s obviously not the same guy he was then. It’s irrelevant. Quote
Popular Post stuuuuuuuuu Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Report Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Tage came into his first practice and dangled Berglund out of his jock. The undressings became a daily routine until Berglund's agent called to inform him of the trade. Initially excited to escape his tormentor, Patty Berg was dismayed to board the flight to Buffalo to see none other than TNT sipping on an apple juice in row two. In a moment you will know the rest of the story..... Upon arrival PB's nightmares only grew worse, closing his eyes only to relive puck after puck sneaking between his skates by the stick of the manchild. He begged, he cried, he duct taped his jock to his waist but he could not stop the mighty tage from embarrassing him. The toe drags were too arrogant, the wingspan too wide. It became too much and Patrick left it all behind to try his fortunes back in Scandinavia, founding the worlds first interspousal boxing league with old pals Ville Leino and Cal O'Reilly. It did not catch on as expected. Now you know the rest of the story... Edited April 25, 2023 by Stu 9 2 Quote
matter2003 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 Maybe if Berglund would have worked the way Thompson has to improve he wouldn't have flamed out of the NHL. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted April 25, 2023 Report Posted April 25, 2023 Tage was definitely a garbage hockey player a few years back, Berglund was a disgrace to the swords I remember Tage leading a 3 on 2 versus the Jets, doing a weird spin drop pass that Winnipeg took down the ice on their own odd man rush, scoring 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted April 26, 2023 Report Posted April 26, 2023 58 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Tage was definitely a garbage hockey player a few years back, Berglund was a disgrace to the swords I remember Tage leading a 3 on 2 versus the Jets, doing a weird spin drop pass that Winnipeg took down the ice on their own odd man rush, scoring Stars 1 Quote
SwampD Posted April 26, 2023 Report Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said: Tage was definitely a garbage hockey player a few years back, Berglund was a disgrace to the swords I remember Tage leading a 3 on 2 versus the Jets, doing a weird spin drop pass that Winnipeg took down the ice on their own odd man rush, scoring I ***** hate statements like this. He was never garbage. He was a kid that hadn't developed yet who should have never been playing in the NHL yet if he wasn't on a garbage franchise (at the time). Edited April 26, 2023 by SwampD 1 Quote
Randall Flagg Posted April 26, 2023 Report Posted April 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, SwampD said: I ***** hate statements like this. He was never garbage. He was a kid that hadn't developed yet who should have never been playing in the NHL yet if he wasn't on a garbage franchise (at the time). Every statement I make judging the quality of a player will be implicitly comparing them to average NHL players. He was garbage relative to that standard, that's all I mean. And he was, he couldn't do anything 22 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Stars I remember this lol Quote
SwampD Posted April 26, 2023 Report Posted April 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Every statement I make judging the quality of a player will be implicitly comparing them to average NHL players. He was garbage relative to that standard, that's all I mean. And he was, he couldn't do anything I remember this lol Fine. I still think it's a crap way to talk hockey. Not unlike that sentence. Quote
Buffalonill Posted April 26, 2023 Report Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, SwampD said: I ***** hate statements like this. He was never garbage. He was a kid that hadn't developed yet who should have never been playing in the NHL yet if he wasn't on a garbage franchise (at the time). He definitely was close to bust / garbage 145 games with a total of 18 goals. Probably buffalo was close to letting him go Edited April 26, 2023 by Buffalonill Quote
SwampD Posted April 26, 2023 Report Posted April 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: He definitely was close to bust / garbage 145 games with a total of 18 goals. No. It's about timing. That's on you for have ridiculous expectations for a 22 year old on a crappy team. If you are even thinking the term bust about a guy in his early 20s, then you are just an uneducated hockey fan, or just being a dick. Quote
Buffalonill Posted April 26, 2023 Report Posted April 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, SwampD said: No. It's about timing. That's on you for have ridiculous expectations for a 22 year old on a crappy team. If you are even thinking the term bust about a guy in his early 20s, then you are just an uneducated hockey fan, or just being a dick. No one thought he be this good probably a 20g guy but he had 18 in 145 games. If you think this normal to give this much time and games please give me another player that this happened too. Quote
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