Eleven Posted April 10, 2023 Report Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, French Collection said: I don’t think it will be a franchise defining moment either way this goes Oh, you're right, of course. But better to just get another D in the fold. 1
LGR4GM Posted April 10, 2023 Report Posted April 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, Eleven said: But better to just get another D in the fold. 2
Cheektorado Posted April 10, 2023 Report Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Xzy89c said: those prospects are much higher in rankings than johnson. Johnson Ceiling is like 5th or 6th dman after a couple years in AHL. If Johnson is that crappy of a prospect then whatever KA wants to do is fine. I would imagine they know more about his worth then us. 1
kas23 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: What do you base your assessment on? Johnson will be playing NHL games either in 23-24 or 24-25. He may not be good, but he’ll likely be playing. Why would we give this up for the 63rd pick in 2024 has close to a 0% of playing in a Sabres game in 24-25. Why would you think any otherwise? 1 1
Flashsabre Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 Why are people saying he is not good? Some people are conditioned that if they tune into a game and a dman isn’t going end to end with 59 points then he is not good. What the Sabres desperately need is a couple dmen that are solid in their own zone. That is what Johnson is. Not flashy but does his job well. 2
pi2000 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Why are people saying he is not good? Some people are conditioned that if they tune into a game and a dman isn’t going end to end with 59 points then he is not good. What the Sabres desperately need is a couple dmen that are solid in their own zone. That is what Johnson is. Not flashy but does his job well. He's not physical, on the smaller side and doesn't produce offensively. He skates well and is a good first pass guy, but that's about it. 1 2
Flashsabre Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, pi2000 said: He's not physical, on the smaller side and doesn't produce offensively. He skates well and is a good first pass guy, but that's about it. He doesn’t make mistakes in his own end and has exceptional positioning. Again he is good at what he does.
Carmel Corn Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, pi2000 said: He's not physical, on the smaller side and doesn't produce offensively. He skates well and is a good first pass guy, but that's about it. BUT....is he good in his own zone (or not)? That's what I care about right now.
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 What’s the holdup? Sign him or don’t. Knies signed and is playing. Faber signed and is playing. Why is this so hard?
PromoTheRobot Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said: What’s the holdup? Sign him or don’t. Knies signed and is playing. Faber signed and is playing. Why is this so hard? If he doesn't want to play on this team, **** him. 2 2
Contempt Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: If he doesn't want to play on this team, **** him. He's doing us a favor by not signing at this point. Burns a year when he may or may not even get into a game given the practice situation and schedule. 1
HumanSlinky39 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 It dragging out like this leads me to believe he doesn't want to sign here. Hope I'm wrong as I think he will be a solid, if unspectacular NHL D-man, but if he wants to play elsewhere, so be it. It wouldn't be a devastating blow or anything.
Crusader1969 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: Why are people saying he is not good? Some people are conditioned that if they tune into a game and a dman isn’t going end to end with 59 points then he is not good. What the Sabres desperately need is a couple dmen that are solid in their own zone. That is what Johnson is. Not flashy but does his job well. Thank you
Crusader1969 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, pi2000 said: He's not physical, on the smaller side and doesn't produce offensively. He skates well and is a good first pass guy, but that's about it. teams need 9 - 10 dmen in a season, I think he’s an important enough piece plus let’s be clear he is Smaller like Joker not like Bryson good defensively and gets the pucks up to the forwards. You can always use a guy like that.
Contempt Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said: teams need 9 - 10 dmen in a season, I think he’s an important enough piece plus let’s be clear he is Smaller like Joker not like Bryson good defensively and gets the pucks up to the forwards. You can always use a guy like that. I'm hoping for a better version of Jokiharju 1
pi2000 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: teams need 9 - 10 dmen in a season, I think he’s an important enough piece plus let’s be clear he is Smaller like Joker not like Bryson good defensively and gets the pucks up to the forwards. You can always use a guy like that. Jokiharju, who IMO gets pushed off the puck too easily, is 30lbs heavier than Johnson. He'll need to bulk up and get stronger before he sees a single shift in the NHL.
Contempt Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Jokiharju, who IMO gets pushed off the puck too easily, is 30lbs heavier than Johnson. He'll need to bulk up and get stronger before he sees a single shift in the NHL. Yes. Though it's not all about the girth. There's a degree of want to that needs to be there in order to win those battles.
Buffalonill Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, pi2000 said: Jokiharju, who IMO gets pushed off the puck too easily, is 30lbs heavier than Johnson. He'll need to bulk up and get stronger before he sees a single shift in the NHL.
Cage Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 6 hours ago, pi2000 said: He's not physical, on the smaller side and doesn't produce offensively. He skates well and is a good first pass guy, but that's about it. How many times have you seen him play?
LGR4GM Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 7 hours ago, pi2000 said: Jokiharju, who IMO gets pushed off the puck too easily, is 30lbs heavier than Johnson. He'll need to bulk up and get stronger before he sees a single shift in the NHL. Johnson's ep page has said 170lb for 3 years. No one has updated his weight but it seems unlikely he's at what he was as a freshman.
tom webster Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 Just a hunch, but I believe he will sign before noon today. 2
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 Johnson is a smallish defensive dman. He is not flashy, does not score. He is defensively responsible. Is he the Sabres savior? No, but he will be a solid 4-6 guy that can be where he is supposed to be. Is it a huge loss if he does not sign? No. Is he what the Sabres need? Yes, and no. We need more defensively good players, but we also need some size to clear the front of the net and win board battles. Not sure he fits with that part, but still think he can help the team.
Night Train Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 Until he signs, I could care less. I have 3 games in the real world to watch. 1 1
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