Night Train Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) When it stirs issues, then it seems so forced and insincere. I know it's a PC world these days but sports is an escape from politics. I have zero issues with it myself, belonging to a UCC church that likes everything that moves without predjudice. Yet I can't act surprised when someone objects to wearing the jersey. Edited March 25, 2023 by Night Train 2 1
Archie Lee Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, Pimlach said: The only thing that seems different this year is we have a Russian player on the Sabres. Pride stuff is banned by their government so when they go back they could be faced with problems. NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said in the last day or two that the NHL has "no information that would suggest there is any material threat that would exist related to a Russian player participating in a club's Pride activities". 1
BUFtoNCfan Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: What's the goal of Pride Night? Acceptance, compassion, just being good corporate neighbors. That’s me spitballing, I don’t do well in this arena, but on this subject, I think I get some of it. 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: Edited March 25, 2023 by BUFtoNCfan
French Collection Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 If I was a player I would wear it but I wouldn’t be upset with a teammate who doesn’t. Shunning him isn’t part of inclusivity. It seems like the media is making more out of this than the fans. 1 2
Sabel79 Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Weave said: Well, military appreciation happens every game, why not more than one for appreciating other folks? Because other folks aren't able to access the Pentagon's PR budget. 1
SabresVet Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Eleven said: Moreover, there's a certain amount of luxury involved in deciding not to wear the employer's designated uniform for the task of warming up. If they were clerks at Walgreens making $12 an hour, they're probably wearing what Walgreens tells them to wear. Athletes signed to long term multi-million dollar contracts possess slightly more leverage than do lesser paid associates working within a large corporation. I really wish social and cultural debates would not occur on a professional sports team message board, but this is 2023 and understand it will invariably happen. Edited March 25, 2023 by SabresVet
Porous Five Hole Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: I knew we could count on you to post something stupid. Thank you for coming through. 1
Happy Days Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) Why is there a need for sports teams to be involved with peoples sexual preferences? Keep politics out of the sport!!! Just play hockey! Edited March 25, 2023 by Happy Days 4 1 1 3
Night Train Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, French Collection said: It seems like the media is making more out of this than the fans. Agreed. Then they take it one step further with public shaming towards anyone that doesn't conform. Why report when you can Op/Ed from the pulpit. Yeah...that just screams sports. Sigh... 1
Eleven Posted March 25, 2023 Author Report Posted March 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, SabresVet said: Athletes signed to long term multi-million dollar contracts possess slightly more leverage than do lesser paid associates working within a large corporation. That was my point.
nfreeman Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said: I knew we could count on you to post something stupid. Thank you for coming through. This is obnoxious. 2 1 1
K-9 Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: What's the goal of Pride Night? If nothing else, perhaps it’s just to let a marginalized community know they are welcomed, without judgement, without fear. I don’t think that’s a small thing in a world where in some countries these people can be jailed or put to death simply for being who they are. Or in our own country where 47% of those polled are in favor of a theocratic government (let that marinate a bit) and there are states proposing or passing laws to stigmatize and marginalize them in schools and other venues. How about banning books, punishing discussion, or not even letting them exhibit pictures of their partners on their desks at work? I wonder what comes next in these states. Will they be forced to wear rainbow colored stars everywhere they go? Will they be rounded up and made to live only in certain places? I’m sure many here will scoff at my post and see that as an overreaction to the issue. Fine. But history always repeats itself when we don’t take a stand and let it be known that this kind of hatred cannot be tolerated in a free society. 6 1 1
Sabel79 Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, nfreeman said: This is obnoxious. Just that one? Still calling it right down the middle, I see. 2 1
Porous Five Hole Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, nfreeman said: This is obnoxious. The tone of the picture is what is obnoxious. 4
Pimlach Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 50 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: Because other folks aren't able to access the Pentagon's PR budget. What? This is a terrible take. Military, police, firefighters, first responders. They are all hard jobs, extremely necessary, and unfortunately they receive a relatively low pay. What is wrong with recognition for these folks? 1
Eleven Posted March 25, 2023 Author Report Posted March 25, 2023 33 minutes ago, Happy Days said: Why is there a need for sports teams to be involved with peoples sexual preferences? Keep politics out of the sport!!! Just play hockey! This is the first mention of politics in this thread. Please keep it out. 1
Sabel79 Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, Pimlach said: What? This is a terrible take. Military, police, firefighters, first responders. They are all hard jobs, extremely necessary, and unfortunately they receive a relatively low pay. What is wrong with recognition for these folks? That's not what I'm saying. The military spends a ton of money to promote these things, which is why they happen more or less constantly. Others... not so much. 1
Pimlach Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Sabel79 said: That's not what I'm saying. The military spends a ton of money to promote these things, which is why they happen more or less constantly. Others... not so much. Oh, thanks for clarifying. In my world, they shouldn’t have too. Recognition of their work should happen without government promotion. I know that there are other opinions, some people do not even want to play the national anthem before games, I am getting to be a minority in this area.
pi2000 Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 Military appreciation should include not only a living hero but also someone who gave their life. Pride night is fine, but there's a fine line between demonstrating tolerance/inclusivity and actually promoting that lifestyle. IMO each individual player should be allowed to choose what they want to wear for warmups each game... instead of having these forced theme based events. If we're going to promote tolerance, then lets be an example of that as well. 2
K-9 Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Military appreciation should include not only a living hero but also someone who gave their life. Pride night is fine, but there's a fine line between demonstrating tolerance/inclusivity and actually promoting that lifestyle. IMO each individual player should be allowed to choose what they want to wear for warmups each game... instead of having these forced theme based events. If we're going to promote tolerance, then lets be an example of that as well. You know what line is much thinner? It’s the line between intolerance/exclusivity and condemning that lifestyle. Especially when we see this condemnation come in the form of actually being codified into law as we are currently seeing in some states. I cannot agree more with your last sentence. Like Gandhi advised, let’s be the change we wanna see. 2 1
JoeSchmoe Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 I was listening to After the Whistle just to see what the meatheads thought about it. Surprisingly, I agreed with some of what was said. Though I would wear the rainbow jersey without hesitation, I think asking a Christian person to wear the rainbow shirts is a bit of a stretch. To the guys' point, it'd be more impactful to get the team into the community and have a road hockey game or something. As per what I learned in my Catholic school education, even Jesus would walk amongst the "sinners", so if a Christian were to skip an event like this, it would definitely be on them, and not their Christian values.
Curt Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Happy Days said: Why is there a need for sports teams to be involved with peoples sexual preferences? Keep politics out of the sport!!! Just play hockey! It’s not political. It’s marketing. Trying to show inclusiveness. Trying to make a group that has not traditionally been embraced in the macho pro sports arena that they are welcome. Welcome to participate in the sport, welcome to become fans, welcome to buy tickets and merchandise. 1
Curt Posted March 25, 2023 Report Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Or in our own country where 47% of those polled are in favor of a theocratic government (let that marinate a bit) Honestly curious. Any links to specific polls you are referencing? Can PM as to not disrupt thread.
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