Buffalo should fire Granato

[Buffalonill]

Can someone explain to me why they shouldn't?

- He sucks At coaching

-  Horrible in game adjustments

-  Loves leaving the goaltender in  To ruin the confidence and not wake up the team

-  Has zero clue how to teach defense

- Doesn't hold anybody accountable

-  And the team is soft as butter and has zero heart

 

*Cherry on top*

 The player that he  Pounded the table for is out of shape!!!!( Granato said it himself)

 

 Other teams in the NHL fire their coach for failed seasons but buffalo Reward them

  ( Great development coach That's it.)

*I'm sure I missed a ton of points so add on*

 

 

 Sorry for the rant I'm an angry old man and I'm p*****

Edited March 22, 2023 by Buffalonill

[North Buffalo]

I get your frustration... mine too and yeh they are unwatchable right now.... but look at the team... this is not about coaching... its a stepwise build of the youngest team in hockey...  heck Edmonton has taken a while too but they didnt screw the pooch catering to MCDavid like Sabres did with Eichel.... or give away willy nilly high draft picks for a psycho goalie... just saying unless TPegs opens his wallet again and I doubt it after his past experiences this is probably as expected with the youngest team in the league lots of highs and lots of lows.

[Carmel Corn]

Maybe some changes with the assistant coaches would be in order.  I'd like to see some that have stronger NHL coaching experience on their resumes.

[Scottysabres]

Nah, Granato shouldn't be fired. He's done well identifying players strengths and employing them to succeed. Not his fault the team is devoid of defenseman and goaltending talent, that falls on the GM.

[Curt]

No.  The Sabres should not fire Granato.

[triumph_communes]

It’s been apparent all season for those paying attention. These last ten games are an absolute embarrassment. 

[nfreeman]

Ultimately I think they shouldn't do this now, but at the same time there are legit questions about coaching, including the PK, the consistently terrible focus/intensity level at home and the utter collapse down the stretch when the playoffs were there for the taking.

I can see plenty of scenarios next season in which I'd be fine letting him go.

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, triumph_communes said:

It’s been apparent all season for those paying attention. These last ten games are an absolute embarrassment. 

It has been apparent? What that you don't like Granato, yes it has been apparent. 

26 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

Nah, Granato shouldn't be fired. He's done well identifying players strengths and employing them to succeed. Not his fault the team is devoid of defenseman and goaltending talent, that falls on the GM.

We have a major goaltending problem. Idk how you fix that with coaching. 

[Xzy89c]

There are questions regarding Granato. A team this bad defensively is concerning. Playing good defense is a very coachable "thing." Requiring a commitment from players and holding them accountable.

I think next year is the answer for Granato. We need upgrades to defense and bottom six. More toughness and grit as has been pointed out on this board. I do not think he will prove to be an above average coach though.

We kept Marv Levy after the Super Bowl where he was coaching a team that at every position was better than the Giants. If we would have replaced Levy we would have won a super bowl... 

[mjd1001]

I don't think you fire him now.

Give him a few more tools to work with. When the Sabres get better goaltending, then figure that into the results.  See how this team responds next year to the finish this year.  If the wheels are still falling off next year at this time, then you think about it.

[GASabresIUFAN]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

We have a major goaltending problem. Idk how you fix that with coaching. 

So maybe the person who should be on the hot seat is the guy who keeps hiring bad goalies?

If he doesn’t get real goaltending this summer he should lose his job.  I don’t care if Levi comes in and plays great in his 3-4 starts.  Asking a 21 year old goalie just out of college to carry a playoff caliber team is wrong.  

[spndnchz]

No

[Zamboni]

When the Sabres string together a few  losses, it becomes easier and easier for me to identify who the WGR550 post game callers most likely are 😂

 

Some won’t like this or they will disagree, but I see (at a minimum) DG has the rest of this season and most likely all of next season to get this team better and into the playoffs. With the help of KA of course.

[Buffalonill]

16 minutes ago, Zamboni said:

When the Sabres string together a few  losses, it becomes easier and easier for me to identify who the WGR550 post game callers most likely are 😂

 

Some won’t like this or they will disagree, but I see (at a minimum) DG has the rest of this season and most likely all of next season to get this team better and into the playoffs. With the help of KA of course.

 It's not just a few losses it's the entire half of the season.

 

So you're telling me when the going gets tough for a playoff push he folds that's OK?

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Of course they shoud not fire him.

They need to do something abut the goaltending and Dman depth.

If I had a vote for the Jack Adams Granato would get it.  It's nothing short of a miracle the Sabres are around NHL 500 and within pissing range of Deluca 500.

[Randall Flagg]

20 minutes ago, Zamboni said:

When the Sabres string together a few  losses, it becomes easier and easier for me to identify who the WGR550 post game callers most likely are 😂

 

Some won’t like this or they will disagree, but I see (at a minimum) DG has the rest of this season and most likely all of next season to get this team better and into the playoffs. With the help of KA of course.

There is a spectrum of reasonable and unreasonable takes for any topic. But yours isn't where you would peg it, in some idealized "middle ground."

There are serious questions and worries about the way this team is disintegrating, and a completely green staff which has no answers and has no history to give confidence they can find them.

[Derrico]

This is all on Adam’s for not seriously addressing goaltending….again

[mjd1001]

When I watch this team and see the breakdowns which are primarily responsible for the fall in the standings, I see 3 primary things the team is lacking, and in this order, what they do not have now: 

1. Good goaltending.  

2. Forward play that is good without the puck in the neutral zone and in their own end.

3. Depth and experience (and health) at the bottom of your D-corp.

Coaching doesn't fix the first one you need better and healthier goaltenders. 

Coaching will help the 2nd one FOR SURE, but it isn't going to happen right away.  Guys who are awful without the puck and in their own zone (Peterka, Cozens, Krebs) that are still young WILL get better with coaching, but as I posted in another thread, they will take small steps on a season-to-season basis, they will not take big steps on a week-to-week or even month-to-month basis.  Would a different coach help this issue? I'm not sure, but even if it did, the change would not be immediate.

The Defensive depth...the ONLY thing I wish Granato did differently is not give his top guys SO much ice time.  Would Dahlin be playing better and possibly not as injured with a bit less ice time? probably.  Would Samuelsson not be injured with less ice time? He gets injured a lot but maybe the situation would be better with less ice time.  You need to bring in better 2nd and 3rd pair guys so you can give your top guys a bit less ice time.  I can listen to and possibly beleive the argument than this team is not a 90 point team, they are closer to an 80 point team but it was coaching that 'overused' the top D-men that kept this team on a 90 point pace until the D-group just broke down.

Bottom line, I'm not changing the coach until the goaltending is better and there is patience with the players themselves getting more experience and, espeically the forwards, playing better without the puck.  Other than Zemgus, there really is no player on this team that is both a full-effort guy AND a guy that knows where to be without the puck in ALL zones.

 

[pi2000]

Firing Granato won't magically make the goaltending better. 

All he has done is taken the youngest and lowest cap team in the league to be the 9th best CF% team at 5-on-5 (58.13%).

That's a minor miracle, IMO.

Firing him is not an option, certainly not one that will make the team better.

[Doohicksie]

[Skibum]

I think it's a legitimate option. Bottom line is this is a team that has showed it can win, with high scoring potential. Two weeks ago, they were in a very strong position to earn a playoff spot, with plenty of time to pull further ahead, and instead they have turned in one of the most embarrassing runs in team history, on par with anything from the tank era. It's possible Granato has taken them as far as he is able, and it's not far enough. 

Edited March 22, 2023 by Skibum

[WhenWillItEnd66]

I do not think DG needs to be fired. His PK coach and defensive coach should definitely be let go for someone with a lot of experience. DG is great with the kids and getting the most out of his players. I honestly think the season is getting to the kids and they have run out of gas. Also the pressure of being so close to a playoff spot did them in as well. As they get older, that will help. We do need to swap out a few players with more defensive style specialists and some more sandpaper so we can forecheck hard and more physical. Now in 2 years if we are still in the same spot, they need to clean house. 

[Ctaeth]

3 minutes ago, Skibum said:

I think it's a legitimate option. Bottom line is this is a team that has showed it can win, with high scoring potential. They were in a great position to take a playoff spot, with plenty of time to pull further ahead, and instead they have completely bombed. It's possible Granato has taken them as far as he is able, and it's not far enough. 

You don't think any of that scoring potential has anything to do with our offensive minded coach?  Or that the late season melt down has anything to do with our poor goaltending and/or young team?

Let the guy see it through, these "fire the coach" takes are just so reactionary.  Look at the last 2 seasons as a whole and your opinion should change.  I'm on board with a coaching staff hire to aid Granato with coaching a more structured defensive approach, but firing him -at this point- is a terribly bad idea

[Bangarang]

Not sure what you’d reasonably expect from another coach with the same issues on defense and in net. 

We desperately need help on D. KA needs to be active in the off-season to make it happen because there’s nobody in the system that’s solving our problems. 
 

Get a goaltender and some different assistant coaches and let’s see what happens.

[Flashsabre]

2 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

Can someone explain to me why they shouldn't?

- He sucks At coaching

-  Horrible in game adjustments

-  Loves leaving the goaltender in  To ruin the confidence and not wake up the team

-  Has zero clue how to teach defense

- Doesn't hold anybody accountable

-  And the team is soft as butter and has zero heart

 

*Cherry on top*

 The player that he  Pounded the table for is out of shape!!!!( Granato said it himself)

 

 Other teams in the NHL fire their coach for failed seasons but buffalo Reward them

  ( Great development coach That's it.)

*I'm sure I missed a ton of points so add on*

 

 

 Sorry for the rant I'm an angry old man and I'm p*****

Lol this line sounds like a 10 year old wrote it“He sucks at coaching”

I understand your anger, we are all there.  Firing Granato isn’t the solution right now but there needs to be a serious meeting in the off-season with management.

1) The goaltending needs to be addressed

2) The D corps needs to be upgraded

3) look at the assistant coaches. Special teams are a mess.

4) a commitment to a structured defensive system that lowers high danger chances against

Granato has helped develop the young talent after the Krueger disaster. He has brought Skinner back to life.  Being asked to cobble together wins with 3 goalies, two of which are drowning and one who is 42 and on a limited schedule, is too much.

Edited March 22, 2023 by Flashsabre