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  On 5/5/2023 at 5:54 PM, Brawndo said:

Using Hockey Viz’s  Model Fox and Karlsson were better at driving offense

Dahlin was better than Makar on offense. 

Dahlin had better defensive metrics than all of them. 
 

Same with Evolving Hockey. 

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Ya. Enough rationalizing for why this was actually good and questioning of our own bias.

Dahlin was robbed of a nomination.

Makar missed a quarter season. He wasn’t Lemieux. 

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  On 5/5/2023 at 6:00 PM, pi2000 said:

The Norris has devolved into "whichever defenseman scores the most points".    

It is what it is.    Dahlin's a great defenseman no matter how many votes he gets.

That said, maybe they should have a separate award for "most points by a defenseman" like the Art Ross.. call it the Coffey Trophy or something.

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You spelled Bobby Orr wrong.

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  On 5/11/2023 at 2:15 PM, Ducky said:

You spelled Bobby Orr wrong.

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Agree.  As great as Coffey was, Orr was even more dominant.    Orr was a guy that changed the way the game was played.   Like Gretzky, but only from the defensive position.  

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  On 5/11/2023 at 3:09 PM, Pimlach said:

Agree.  As great as Coffey was, Orr was even more dominant.    Orr was a guy that changed the way the game was played.   Like Gretzky, but only from the defensive position.  

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I think that’s the point though: Orr was dominant all-around. Changed the game to a greater degree than Wayne. Honestly should name the Norris after him. The Pointz award being named after someone lesser actually makes sense, I think that’s why you see Coffey mentioned for it a lot. Obviously he’s still great but, certainly not Orr, to your point

  On 5/11/2023 at 2:15 PM, Ducky said:

You spelled Bobby Orr wrong.

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Should be the Logan Stanley memorial award 

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Just posting this here for closure. Reading through some of the comments... we didn't really have Dahlin finishing 8th, did we? Bunch of homers.

Making the playoffs (and not getting injured during the playoff chase) matters. Don't worry! In the future we can comment on how Power was stealing all of Dahlin's votes and vice versa.

  On 6/27/2023 at 2:05 AM, Thorny said:

 

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