Crusader1969 Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 11:59 PM, Taro T said: To the bolded, if it were strictly about merit for just next season and not part of a plan for moving forward for the next dozen or so years, expect they would. But last year, Quinn and Peterka were tearing up the AHL and both only got a cup of coffee in the NHL last year in their D+2 year. Still believe that was to get their ELC's to slide a 2nd year. Until Savoie &/or Kulich play a 10th game in the NHL next year will not expect them to do so. (And again, based upon what Adams says about them moving forward, might change that expectation, but am not ready to do so now.) Expand You’ve got a really good point there about Quinn and Peterka in AHL in D+2 season i could see that route for Kulich, he could start on AHL and be the first call up when needed Not sure about Savoie; if he was eligible for the AHL then it’s a no-brainer that he starts there I’ll guess that he starts the season with the Sabres and they figure it out from there Really don’t see the point of being in the WHL, except that there may be no other choice Quote
CallawaySabres Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:06 PM, Bob Malooga said: Please. elaborate? He doesn't score goals. He doesn't create them. He"s tried to fight like 7 times and mostly got his ass kicked. What am I missing? Because whatever it is, certainly is not worth giving the Wild a 2nd round pick to do them a favor since they need cap space. The Sabres should've been paid to take that contract off the Wild's hands. Oh, and apparently he takes a lot of penalties. Expand I talked to my good friend in Minnesota and although it may be a bit of the rolling of the dice, he said injuries and not being utilized properly in the Wild system may contribute a lot to what his performance has been this year. The potential Granato saw in World Juniors seems to be the catalyst of this trade. Personally, I think it is going to work but we probably won't see his potential until next season. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 1:40 PM, Bob Malooga said: I love most of Adams' moves and I still trust him, but doing the Wild a favor by giving them a 2nd round pick to take a $3M scrub off their hands? Woof. Expand Wow. How yo you really feel? Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 7:26 PM, bob_sauve28 said: No clue what the advanced stats mean, but this is an interesting point Expand This is why they traded for him On 3/4/2023 at 2:06 PM, Bob Malooga said: Please. elaborate? He doesn't score goals. He doesn't create them. He"s tried to fight like 7 times and mostly got his ass kicked. What am I missing? Because whatever it is, certainly is not worth giving the Wild a 2nd round pick to do them a favor since they need cap space. The Sabres should've been paid to take that contract off the Wild's hands. Oh, and apparently he takes a lot of penalties. Expand See above. On 3/3/2023 at 7:41 PM, LGR4GM said: Expand Here's more of what he does. 1 Quote
Bob Malooga Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:11 PM, CallawaySabres said: I talked to my good friend in Minnesota and although it may be a bit of the rolling of the dice, he said injuries and not being utilized properly in the Wild system may contribute a lot to what his performance has been this year. The potential Granato saw in World Juniors seems to be the catalyst of this trade. Personally, I think it is going to work but we probably won't see his potential until next season. Expand I've been on all sorts of Minnesota Wild boards and comment sections and they couldn't be more ecstatic. Just because Granato got something out of Thompson (a 1st round pick) at 23-24 years old, doesn't mean he'll get something out of Greenway (a 2nd round pick) at 26-27 years old. Hope it works out in some way. Quote
Scottysabres Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 1:35 PM, LGR4GM said: If this team can't win with Okposo playing 4th line minutes, they aren't good anyways. Expand Ask yourself this, would any of the Cup Contenders put Okposo on their 4th line? I'm going to say, no, but, it's just my opinion of course. Quote
Pimlach Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:06 PM, Bob Malooga said: Please. elaborate? He doesn't score goals. He doesn't create them. He"s tried to fight like 7 times and mostly got his ass kicked. What am I missing? Because whatever it is, certainly is not worth giving the Wild a 2nd round pick to do them a favor since they need cap space. The Sabres should've been paid to take that contract off the Wild's hands. Oh, and apparently he takes a lot of penalties. Expand Quote
Bob Malooga Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:12 PM, LGR4GM said: This is why they traded for him See above. Here's more of what he does. Expand That was nearly 4 years ago...players don't just regain their form they had for one season four years ago. On 3/4/2023 at 2:17 PM, Pimlach said: Expand No, just Jordan Greenway. Quote
Flashsabre Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:15 PM, Bob Malooga said: I've been on all sorts of Minnesota Wild boards and comment sections and they couldn't be more ecstatic. Just because Granato got something out of Thompson (a 1st round pick) at 23-24 years old, doesn't mean he'll get something out of Greenway (a 2nd round pick) at 26-27 years old. Hope it works out in some way. Expand There is no better or accurate gauge of a player then on a fan messageboard.😳 Quote
nucci Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:25 PM, Flashsabre said: There is no better or accurate gauge of a player then on a fan messageboard.😳 Expand but a chart with useless numbers that don't mean anything is even better 1 Quote
Flashsabre Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:12 PM, LGR4GM said: This is why they traded for him See above. Here's more of what he does. Expand This is what the analytics departments are for. They probably see the same in both Greenway and Stillman. Guys the worked far better in one system (which is closer to ours) and struggled in another system. Granato’s connection with Greenway played a big part but I’m sure Ventura and co. Saw upside in both players if they were used in our system. Time will tell. Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:18 PM, Bob Malooga said: That was nearly 4 years ago...players don't just regain their form they had for one season four years ago. No, just Jordan Greenway. Expand The 2nd thing is last season so no it isn't. On 3/4/2023 at 2:28 PM, nucci said: but a chart with useless numbers that don't mean anything is even better Expand Just because you don't understand something, that doesn't mean it's useless. Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:15 PM, Bob Malooga said: I've been on all sorts of Minnesota Wild boards and comment sections and they couldn't be more ecstatic. Just because Granato got something out of Thompson (a 1st round pick) at 23-24 years old, doesn't mean he'll get something out of Greenway (a 2nd round pick) at 26-27 years old. Hope it works out in some way. Expand So you're upset we traded a pick that might be get us a player at Greenways level 4-5 years after this draft? And we will still have 2 higher 2nd round picks in this draft. Quote
bg17 Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:09 PM, Crusader1969 said: You’ve got a really good point there about Quinn and Peterka in AHL in D+2 season i could see that route for Kulich, he could start on AHL and be the first call up when needed Not sure about Savoie; if he was eligible for the AHL then it’s a no-brainer that he starts there I’ll guess that he starts the season with the Sabres and they figure it out from there Really don’t see the point of being in the WHL, except that there may be no other choice Expand One difference with Kulich is that this his second season playing in a men’s league. I predict he is VO replacement opening night this coming season. Quote
Buffalonill Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:06 PM, Bob Malooga said: Please. elaborate? He doesn't score goals. He doesn't create them. He"s tried to fight like 7 times and mostly got his ass kicked. What am I missing? Because whatever it is, certainly is not worth giving the Wild a 2nd round pick to do them a favor since they need cap space. The Sabres should've been paid to take that contract off the Wild's hands. Oh, and apparently he takes a lot of penalties. Expand Maybe you should just wait and see how he does before you get mad 1 Quote
Archie Lee Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:15 PM, Scottysabres said: Ask yourself this, would any of the Cup Contenders put Okposo on their 4th line? I'm going to say, no, but, it's just my opinion of course. Expand At $1.5 per year or so? Absolutely. Quote
Buffalonill Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:18 PM, Bob Malooga said: That was nearly 4 years ago...players don't just regain their form they had for one season four years ago. No, just Jordan Greenway. Expand How can you hate a player when he hasn't even played for the team yet lol 1 Quote
Quint Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:15 PM, Bob Malooga said: I've been on all sorts of Minnesota Wild boards and comment sections and they couldn't be more ecstatic. Just because Granato got something out of Thompson (a 1st round pick) at 23-24 years old, doesn't mean he'll get something out of Greenway (a 2nd round pick) at 26-27 years old. Hope it works out in some way. Expand I'm with you. Improving Greenway at the tail end of his worst season might be a Herculean task. Quote
Stoner Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:47 PM, Buffalonill said: How can you hate a player when he hasn't even played for the team yet lol Expand Why wait? Are we waiting to anoint DG and KA fantastic at their jobs? Quote
Pimlach Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:44 PM, Buffalonill said: Maybe you should just wait and see how he does before you get mad Expand On 3/4/2023 at 2:47 PM, Buffalonill said: How can you hate a player when he hasn't even played for the team yet lol Expand Trolling. He will be gone tomorrow to haunt the Bills message boards. Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:40 PM, bg17 said: One difference with Kulich is that this his second season playing in a men’s league. I predict he is VO replacement opening night this coming season. Expand I predict he stays in Rochester. Quote
nucci Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 2:37 PM, LGR4GM said: Just because you don't understand something, that doesn't mean it's useless. Expand His DZ puck touches per 60 needs some work. Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 3:10 PM, nucci said: His DZ puck touches per 60 needs some work. Expand I'd agree. See, not worthless. Quote
nucci Posted March 4, 2023 Report Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 3:11 PM, LGR4GM said: I'd agree. See, not worthless. Expand right....I'm not against this guy. Never seen him play. I'll judge him how he plays during the games. 1 Quote
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