dudacek Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Sure call it whatever you want, I don't like giving up assets for bad hockey players, especially bad hockey players with term. Do you ever wonder if Adams has yet to pull the trigger on a minor upgrade to the defence because he’s been working his ass off for months a major one? Quote
RochesterExpat Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Why? He's been awful this year. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dudacek said: Do you ever wonder if Adams has yet to pull the trigger on a minor upgrade to the defence because he’s been working his ass off for months a major one? I've been wondering about that for two years. Still waiting. Hey if he gets a steal on Chychrun I'll be the first to post what a great get. I'd love to see that skill set here for the next two-plus years. I understand why you think the Stillman deal is an insurance policy against KA failing to get any upgrades to this defense during this deadline period. I understand what parts of the Stillman skill set intrigued KA (besides doing a friend a solid). After all, it's the same skill set (with the same issues) that attracted him to Lyubishkin. A pairing of Stillman and Lyubishkin also seems like a terrible idea. However, getting a proven player in the 5 would be a better insurance policy. That way if the big deal doesn't happen you still upgraded your team. If the big deal does happen then you have upgraded both your 2nd and 3rd pairings and your depth. Now, all we've done so far is added depth, but depth one hopes never plays. Edited March 1, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN Quote
DarthEbriate Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, RochesterExpat said: Why? He's been awful this year. It's the Vegas model. He's a big name they've heard of. Also, they've got 3 goalies on IR or LTIR so they're rolling Hill and Hutchinson. They can keep him as a backup or waive him once Thompson is healthy again. 1 Quote
Eleven Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 Just now, Brawndo said: Remember when that guy was a Calder runner-up? 1 Quote
Contempt Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: Why? He's been awful this year. Because Vegas is the new money version of the Rangers and they want to collect all the shiny baubles. 6 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I dont understand what Vancouver is doing. 1 Quote
MattPie Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Contempt said: Because Vegas is the new money version of the Rangers and they want to collect all the shiny baubles. I dont understand what Vancouver is doing. Adams should have gotten that pick bundled with Stillman if they were going to give it away. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Contempt said: I dont understand what Vancouver is doing. They had to replace Stillman. 😇 Hronek is a very good upgrade for them. He's top-4 capable with the right partner, but would be an excellent 5/6. It's Detroit I'm a bit surprised by. Two losses to Ottawa shouldn't have caused them to abort their run, but perhaps it did. Edvinsson is LHD and needs a spot next year, but Hronek's been very steady for them. He still has a year left on his deal and is RFA at the end. Quote
dudacek Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Contempt said: Because Vegas is the new money version of the Rangers and they want to collect all the shiny baubles. I dont understand what Vancouver is doing. Or Detroit Did the give up on the playoff race, or are they going to flip the picks for something better, like Chychrun? 1 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: Or Detroit Did the give up on the playoff race, or are they going to flip the picks for something better, like Chychrun? Chychrun is the first thought I had as well (Detroit that is....is Steve Y trying to upgrade his D with Chychrun). Edited March 1, 2023 by Carmel Corn Quote
Contempt Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, dudacek said: Or Detroit Did the give up on the playoff race, or are they going to flip the picks for something better, like Chychrun? They have something like a 3% chance of making it. I think they are just selling. And that Isles pick could be decent which why I truly don't get Vancouver. They DON'T need 2 lottery picks this year?? Quote
kas23 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: There is one big difference. Tage has real talent while Stillman not so much. When your hope for him is that he becomes Lyubushkin, that's not really the result we are looking for. I think we need to give Granato and KA a chance with Stillman. I’m a huge proponent of the cream always rising to the top, but it certainly didn’t under RK. We forget Skinner was a 4th liner under him, Tage looked like hot garbage, and even Dahlin looked like a JAG. A coach and his system matters. I’m not saying Stillman is going to magically become an All-Star, but a decent 5/6 is a real possibility. Or, he could be a Bryson. We just don’t know. Fortunate for us, it takes many years for a D to properly develop and we certainly can’t rely on drafting one to help in the next few years. If this was the guy we drafted over Bloom, I think we would cut him some slack. 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, dudacek said: Or Detroit Did the give up on the playoff race, or are they going to flip the picks for something better, like Chychrun? If I'm ARZ, I'm getting Edvinsson in the deal. Or Yzerman can ask again in the summer or add in a few more 1sts. Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 1, 2023 Author Report Posted March 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Wtf is Vancouver doing? Or Detroit for that matter? Quote
LTS Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Wtf is Vancouver doing? Or Detroit for that matter? Detroit is going to get Chychrun... And Vancouver will trade Myers and Demko to Buffalo... It's as good a theory as any. 🙂 Quote
LGR4GM Posted March 1, 2023 Author Report Posted March 1, 2023 Just now, LTS said: Detroit is going to get Chychrun... And Vancouver will trade Myers and Demko to Buffalo... It's as good a theory as any. 🙂 1 Quote
inkman Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, kas23 said: I think we need to give Granato and KA a chance with Stillman. I’m a huge proponent of the cream always rising to the top, but it certainly didn’t under RK. We forget Skinner was a 4th liner under him, Tage looked like hot garbage, and even Dahlin looked like a JAG. A coach and his system matters. I’m not saying Stillman is going to magically become an All-Star, but a decent 5/6 is a real possibility. Or, he could be a Bryson. We just don’t know. Fortunate for us, it takes many years for a D to properly develop and we certainly can’t rely on drafting one to help in the next few years. If this was the guy we drafted over Bloom, I think we would cut him some slack. He’ll never be Bryson. He’s over 5’7” tall and actual plays the body. Quote
Taro T Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, inkman said: He’ll never be Bryson. He’s over 5’7” tall and actual plays the body. What if he wore his skates on his knees? 1 Quote
LTS Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, LTS said: Detroit is going to get Chychrun... And Vancouver will trade Myers and Demko to Buffalo... It's as good a theory as any. 🙂 That didn't age well.. 🙂 Quote
Billznut Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 Chychrun To Ottawa 2023 first conditional 2024 2nd 2026 2nd 1 Quote
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