LGR4GM Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 Wtf would we trade anything other than future considerations for this? Quote
triumph_communes Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Bloom will never play in the NHL anyway I guess. He’s been trending bust. If it puts Bryson down.. we’ll at least it’s a fresh face to try. Edited February 27, 2023 by triumph_communes 1 Quote
rickshaw Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 This trade isn’t really much of anything. But he’s a warm body on the back end. Bloom was he ever gonna play? Stillman probs won’t either. It’s certainly nothing to be upset about. Quote
Turbo44 Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Needs waivers Fantastic - makes 0 sense unless he’s being sent on to another team in a bigger trade. Vancouver fans are actually upset he’s been traded cuz 16 mins less of him per game means less of a chance for 1st overall pick. im going to trust our scouts and KA but from the surface this makes no sense?? Now they’ll probably have to pass Klague back to Rochester through waivers and he’ll be claimed 1 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Trading Bloom is what I don't get. I get he is a raw prospect, but he is one that is performing well in the juniors so I would think he has some value. Ok, maybe Bloom is so far behind in the depth chart they don't see a spot for him down the road. BUT, he was a 3rd round pick that seems to have been outplaying his draft spot, and in junior is a goal-every-other-game player. You don't have a spot for him fine, but don't just give him away for what appears to be a good AHL-level/Bad NHL-level D-man that, at first glance, only fills a sport on your roster where he is going to barely get by due to injuries. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Sabres aren't up against the cap, aren't there guys routinely on the waiver wire on a weekly basis that are ALMOST as good if not as good? With that said, if someone knows something else about Stillman other than he was a late 4th round pick, He is a 2 goal, 12 assist guy over 82 games, he was Vancouver's 6th option (in terms of ice time per games played) with penalty killing..is under 200 lbs, and got scratched a lot with Vancover and Chicago over the last 3 years. Again, someone tell me what he is good at over someone you can get off of waivers? Maybe this move is just the first one and another D-man is coming, one who will bring a little more to the team. But if that is the case, and Stillman is the 'break glass in case of emergency' guy...I still go back to why give up Bloom, when Bloom could probably be used for a greater asset sometime in the future? Edited February 27, 2023 by mjd1001 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 Does it put Bryson in the press box ? If so, I’m good Quote
RochesterExpat Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 Watch, this is the missing piece to Chychrun because Arizona demanded a D-man coming back and GMKA didn't want to send anyone on the roster out of a fear of screwing up the vibes. 1 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, RochesterExpat said: Watch, this is the missing piece to Chychrun because Arizona demanded a D-man coming back and GMKA didn't want to send anyone on the roster out of a fear of screwing up the vibes. Lol ARI: We’ll trade you Chychrun but only if you get us Riley Stillman from Vancouver 6 Quote
sodbuster Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: Watch, this is the missing piece to Chychrun because Arizona demanded a D-man coming back and GMKA didn't want to send anyone on the roster out of a fear of screwing up the vibes. I sure hope you're right. Quote
Cheektorado Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Trading Bloom is what I don't get. Ok, maybe Bloom is so far behind in the depth chart they don't see a spot for him down the road. BUT, he was a 3rd round pick that seems to have been outplaying his draft spot, and in junior is a goal-every-other-game player. You don't have a spot for him fine, but don't just give him away for what appears to be a good AHL-level/Bad NHL-level D-man that, at first glance, only fills a sport on your roster where he is going to barely get by due to injuries. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Sabres aren't up against the cap, aren't there guys routinely on the waiver wire on a weekly basis that are ALMOST as good if not as good? With that said, if someone knows something else about Stillman other than he was a late 4th round pick, He is a 2 goal, 12 assist guy over 82 games, he was Vancouver's 6th option (in terms of ice time per games played) with penalty killing..is under 200 lbs, and got scratched a lot with Vancover and Chicago over the last 3 years. Again, someone tell me what he is good at over someone you can get off of waivers? Maybe this move is just the first one and another D-man is coming, one who will bring a little more to the team. But if that is the case, and Stillman is the 'break glass in case of emergency' guy...I still go back to why give up Bloom, when Bloom could probably be used for a greater asset sometime in the future? It looks like he blocks a lot of shots and hits a lot. Way more per game than Clague. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) I guess KA proved he was willing to make a move. I also guess Van wasn’t trading Schenn for Bloom. Edited February 27, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote
Taro T Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 Any thoughts on who is going down to Ra-cha-cha for the next 4 days as they now have 1 too many bodies on the big club? (Please don't say Dahlin is getting IR'd for a few days.) 1 Quote
French Collection Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Combine this with the Houser signing and we’re good to go. Edited February 27, 2023 by French Collection Quote
PerreaultForever Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 I thought Josh Bloom was supposed to be the power forward we all wanted coming soon................ I guess not. Seems too early to give up on him but I guess they don't like his development. Stillman? He's not good. I don't think he's any better than Colin Miller or Robert Hagg was. I DEFINITELY don't think he's any better than Mike Riley who we could have had for roughly the same contract and term for free (and probably still could have for free). So I don't get this at all. 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted February 27, 2023 Author Report Posted February 27, 2023 He looks better with less minutes in a different system per NTrider825 on Twitter 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 Adam's and Stillmans dad were alternate Capt's on the 05-06 Hurricanes. Interesting. 1 1 1 Quote
Two or less Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 He's Cory Stillman's son... who played with Kevyn on that Carolina team. Quote
Brawndo Posted February 27, 2023 Author Report Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Taro T said: Any thoughts on who is going down to Ra-cha-cha for the next 4 days as they now have 1 too many bodies on the big club? (Please don't say Dahlin is getting IR'd for a few days.) UPL could go down and get called up on Friday after the TDL. I imagine that Comrie will start against Columbus and Anderson against Boston, so Saturday would be His First probable start 1 1 Quote
Eleven Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: This makes 0 sense. He's a tweener. So is Bloom, in this organization. But why do this now? Quote
PerreaultForever Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: Watch, this is the missing piece to Chychrun because Arizona demanded a D-man coming back and GMKA didn't want to send anyone on the roster out of a fear of screwing up the vibes. OR, he has to toss in a D man from the roster to make that deal happen (maybe Jokiharju) and so he needed another D body for depth. Especially if Dahlin is more banged up than we think. Quote
pi2000 Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: Can we see his stats that don't include rookie years? Namely the last season? Then see those stats relative to the rest of the Canucks? ============================================================== VAN even strength goal differential through 59 games = -21 VAN even strength minutes played through 59 games = 3013.29 exp+/- is a function of %min played at ES and team ES goal diff TRpm(team relative +/-) is the diff btwn actual+/- and exp+/- %min is % of ES minutes played ============================================================== Team Player TRpm GP +/- exp+/- %min VAN Quinn Hughes 17.63 55 10 -7.63 36.3 VAN Luke Schenn 14.87 55 9 -5.87 27.9 VAN Elias Pettersson 12.86 57 7 -5.86 27.9 VAN Ethan Bear 10.25 46 5 -5.25 25.0 VAN Andrei Kuzmenko 9.34 58 4 -5.34 25.4 VAN Bo Horvat 8.17 49 3 -5.17 24.6 VAN Ilya Mikheyev 7.50 46 3 -4.50 21.4 VAN Lane Pederson 3.92 11 3 -0.92 4.4 VAN Conor Garland 1.59 58 -4 -5.59 26.6 VAN Vasily Podkolzin -0.82 26 -3 -2.18 10.4 VAN Anthony Beauvillier -0.91 10 -2 -1.09 5.2 VAN Curtis Lazar -1.55 45 -5 -3.45 16.4 VAN Nils Hoglander -1.94 25 -4 -2.06 9.8 VAN Travis Dermott -3.03 11 -4 -0.97 4.6 VAN Jack Studnicka -3.59 34 -6 -2.41 11.5 VAN Sheldon Dries -5.29 40 -8 -2.71 12.9 VAN Nils Aman -5.53 45 -9 -3.47 16.5 VAN Tyler Myers -5.64 56 -13 -7.36 35.1 VAN William Lockwood -6.12 13 -7 -0.88 4.2 VAN Tanner Pearson -7.88 14 -9 -1.12 5.3 VAN J.T. Miller -8.81 59 -15 -6.19 29.5 VAN Kyle Burroughs -10.38 25 -13 -2.62 12.5 VAN Riley Stillman -10.69 32 -14 -3.31 15.8 VAN Dakota Joshua -11.09 56 -15 -3.91 18.6 VAN Brock Boeser -14.91 51 -20 -5.09 24.2 VAN Oliver Ekman-Larsson -17.38 54 -24 -6.62 31.5 ============================================================== Quote
Quint Posted February 27, 2023 Report Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Riley is only 24 yet he's already been traded by three NHL teams. Edited February 28, 2023 by Quint Quote
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