Taro T Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: I thought roster limits applied until the day after the deadline? Or is there a grace rule? They go away on deadline day. 1 Quote
Weave Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, inkman said: He’s an upgrade, in as much as he brings things the other 6/7/8 Dmen don’t bring. Physical play. If you don’t value that then I suppose you could be right although I’ve seen little out of Clague and Bryson to make me think Stillman can’t do exactly what they did but actually hit people as well. Thats what Ive been saying. They upgraded specific traits in the 6/7 role, physicality and size. 3 Quote
Mustache of God Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Weave said: Thats what Ive been saying. They upgraded specific traits in the 6/7 role, physicality and size. I agree, Bryson/Clague never had an edge to their game, we need someone to out muscle the other team. My fear is that just because he's a physical player doesn't mean he still wont' suck, aka the Rasmus Ristolainin effect. He'll hit anything that moves but in doing so takes himself out of position, only without any offensive instinct. Quote
TageMVP Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: I agree, Bryson/Clague never had an edge to their game, we need someone to out muscle the other team. My fear is that just because he's a physical player doesn't mean he still wont' suck, aka the Rasmus Ristolainin effect. He'll hit anything that moves but in doing so takes himself out of position, only without any offensive instinct. The player being checked is also taken out of position Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, TageMVP said: The player being checked is also taken out of position And smart players see checks coming and move into the space that gets opened. It is a two way street which Risto never learned. 2 minutes ago, inkman said: Donny "Just a Development Coach" Granato has worked wonders before. Quote
Popular Post dudacek Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Report Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) Wow, listening to Canuck radio and analyst Thomas Drance is saying don't be surprised if Riley Stillman turns into an asset for the Sabres, despite his struggles in Vancouver. Basically he says Stillman was put in the worst possible position with the Canucks where the system and his partner (Tyler Myers) exacerbated his flaws. Drance says that won't be the case in Buffalo, which is loaded (his words) with defencemen who can move the puck. Drance thinks he's a viable 6/7 who can grind out neutral minutes on the bottom pair. Different take from most of the other Canuck-watchers. Also said Stillman was targeted by the Canucks when they acquired him along with cap space for Jason Dickinson and a 2nd. They thought he was going to be a regular, not filler, but he proved a bad fit. Edited February 28, 2023 by dudacek 7 1 3 Quote
TageMVP Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, dudacek said: Wow, listening to Canuck radio and analyst Thomas Drance is saying don't be surprised if Riley Stillman turns into an asset for the Sabres, despite his struggles in Vancouver. Basically he says Stillman was put in the worst possible position with the Canucks where the system and his partner exacerbated his flaws. Drance says that won't be the case in Buffalo, which is loaded (his words) with defencemen who can move the puck. Drance thinks he's a viable 6/7 who can grind out neutral minutes on the bottom pair. Different take from most of the other Canuck-watchers. I do not think it's possible for him to be worse than Bryson Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, dudacek said: Wow, listening to Canuck radio and analyst Thomas Drance is saying don't be surprised if Riley Stillman turns into an asset for the Sabres, despite his struggles in Vancouver. Basically he says Stillman was put in the worst possible position with the Canucks where the system and his partner exacerbated his flaws. Drance says that won't be the case in Buffalo, which is loaded (his words) with defencemen who can move the puck. Drance thinks he's a viable 6/7 who can grind out neutral minutes on the bottom pair. Different take from most of the other Canuck-watchers. Hey, this team has worked miracles before. Tage Thompson is one of the NHL's leading scorers. Quote
Mustache of God Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 All the haters going to be singing a different tune when Stillman scores the OT winner in game 7 of the stanley cup finals. You heard it here first. 1 2 3 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 I just keep saying he can't be any worse then Bryson but I could be wrong. Quote
Taro T Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, TageMVP said: I do not think it's possible for him to be worse than Bryson Larry Pilut waives from his seat in the corner. ;) 3 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: All the haters going to be singing a different tune when Stillman scores the OT winner in game 7 of the stanley cup finals. You heard it here first. Or until Marchand slashes Dahlin in a scrum after the Bruins have taken a 1-0 lead in game one of the EQF. Stillman responds with a facewash and a fight ensues, Marchand is dusted into next week, and the Sabres rally for a game win and complete control of the series end-to-end. Quote
Contempt Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TageMVP said: I do not think it's possible for him to be worse than Bryson Worse in a different way maybe. Yakking up the puck and horrible breakouts rather than getting steamrolled and run over. I dunno. Maybe he's not terrible. I wonder who they plan on pairing him with. Edited February 28, 2023 by Contempt Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: All the haters going to be singing a different tune when Stillman scores the OT winner in game 7 of the stanley cup finals. You heard it here first. I'll quit drinking Quote
Mustache of God Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said: I just keep saying he can't be any worse then Bryson but I could be wrong. They can be equally bad in different ways. I'm giving him 5 games to soak in the Granato effect before I pass any judgement, unless of course he's making plays like Mitt's boneheaded drop pass. 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Or until Marchand slashes Dahlin in a scrum after the Bruins have taken a 1-0 lead in game one of the EQF. Stillman responds with a facewash and a fight ensues, Marchand is dusted into next week, and the Sabres rally for a game win and complete control of the series end-to-end. 3 Quote
RochesterExpat Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: I'll quit drinking You can turn your western NY card in right now, sir. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: You can turn your western NY card in right now, sir. Thats true dont know if i can handle the view sober 3 Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: I'll quit drinking I do that once a week, so what? Quote
msw2112 Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) As stated by at least one other poster above, Granato has a track record of developing young players (Dahlin, Thompson, Cozens, etc.) and also for getting the most out of veteran players coming off of a down season or seasons (Skinner, Okposo). Maybe he sees somthing in Stillman that he can develop. That's what he says. If so, the Sabres have acquired a younger bottom pair defenseman with NHL experience who brings a physical element to the team that is sorely lacking. To do that, they had to give up a bottom-six forward prospect whose chance of making the Sabres team as a regular contributor was pretty low. It seems like a reasonable risk to take. I don't follow the Canucks at all, but I know that they are not a very good team right now, so perhaps they were either a) improperly utilizing Stillman; or b) doing a poor job developing him. One final thought on the trade - if the Sabres have any injuries on defense, who can they call up from Rochester that would be better than Stillman? Maybe Pilut? Clague and Bryson are already with the team. So this trade also adds some depth to the roster. Edited February 28, 2023 by msw2112 2 Quote
Getpucksdeep Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Quote
shrader Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Brawndo said: It's a pretty significant challenge. They have a very tight window to bring him up to speed if he's going to be a contributing piece to this playoff push. I hope there's one more blueliner headed our way. 1 Quote
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