The New Bally RSN Thread.

[Weave]

If it allows in market streaming it will be the first time I am tempted to pay for a service since I cut the cord over 10yrs ago

[Eleven]

  On 3/1/2023 at 5:53 PM, Weave said:

If it allows in market streaming it will be the first time I am tempted to pay for a service since I cut the cord over 10yrs ago

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I pay for one monthly service at a time.  This month it's Hulu/ESPN+ for $10, and believe me, it requires the NHL to be worth $10 (Hulu is crap--it has M*A*S*H, Cheers, and little else).  Next month it will be Apple+ if the new Ted Lasso is out.

I probably would pay $300/yr for MSG, but that is kind of a lot.  There would have to be absolutely no blackouts--not for ESPN+, not for TNT, etc., and I doubt they're going to pull that off.

[Weave]

  On 3/1/2023 at 6:08 PM, Eleven said:

I pay for one monthly service at a time.  This month it's Hulu/ESPN+ for $10, and believe me, it requires the NHL to be worth $10 (Hulu is crap--it has M*A*S*H, Cheers, and little else).  Next month it will be Apple+ if the new Ted Lasso is out.

I probably would pay $300/yr for MSG, but that is kind of a lot.  There would have to be absolutely no blackouts--not for ESPN+, not for TNT, etc., and I doubt they're going to pull that off.

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I might tolerate ESPN+ and TNT blackouts, but I’m doin month to month on a subscription.  MSG is useless to me outisde of the Sabres.

And frankly, if this team were to go backwards, I want an eject button on the subscription.

[MattPie]

  On 3/1/2023 at 6:08 PM, Eleven said:

I pay for one monthly service at a time.  This month it's Hulu/ESPN+ for $10, and believe me, it requires the NHL to be worth $10 (Hulu is crap--it has M*A*S*H, Cheers, and little else).  Next month it will be Apple+ if the new Ted Lasso is out.

I probably would pay $300/yr for MSG, but that is kind of a lot.  There would have to be absolutely no blackouts--not for ESPN+, not for TNT, etc., and I doubt they're going to pull that off.

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I doubt the pull it off too. And I can't image that many people are going to pay $309 for it either. Times change, but NHL Gamecenter/CI was like $150/season for all the teams, and MSG wants twice that for just a handful of teams?

[Eleven]

  On 3/1/2023 at 6:44 PM, Weave said:

I might tolerate ESPN+ and TNT blackouts, but I’m doin month to month on a subscription.  MSG is useless to me outisde of the Sabres.

And frankly, if this team were to go backwards, I want an eject button on the subscription.

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VERY good point.

  On 3/1/2023 at 6:46 PM, MattPie said:

I doubt the pull it off too. And I can't image that many people are going to pay $309 for it either. Times change, but NHL Gamecenter/CI was like $150/season for all the teams, and MSG wants twice that for just a handful of teams?

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Another good point.  For NYCers who want to watch the Knicks and whatever else MSG covers, it might make sense, but Weave's got that down above.

[Brawndo]

  On 3/1/2023 at 6:46 PM, MattPie said:

I doubt the pull it off too. And I can't image that many people are going to pay $309 for it either. Times change, but NHL Gamecenter/CI was like $150/season for all the teams, and MSG wants twice that for just a handful of teams?

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I would think the higher amount is being charged for people who live in markets where the games are blacked out on ESPN Plus and NHL Center Ice. If they remain blacked out forget it. 

[Brawndo]

@Weave @Eleven @LGR4GM

Per the Athletic MSG Plus and its games will be available to anyone who lives in an area that MSG is available via TV Providers. 
 

 

Also anyone who gets MSG through a provider now will get MSG Plus for free 

[Doohickie]

  On 3/1/2023 at 8:20 PM, Brawndo said:

anyone who gets MSG through a provider now will get MSG Plus for free 

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That's basically what I get with Bally Southwest (Stars, Mavs, Rangers).

[Eleven]

MLB is going to take over about 14 RSN channels that Bally can't handle:  https://nypost.com/2023/03/12/mlb-to-stream-games-for-free-amid-looming-diamond-sports-bankruptcy-sources/

[Two or less]

  On 3/13/2023 at 12:50 AM, Eleven said:

MLB is going to take over about 14 RSN channels that Bally can't handle:  https://nypost.com/2023/03/12/mlb-to-stream-games-for-free-amid-looming-diamond-sports-bankruptcy-sources/

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From the article:

Locally, MSG Networks, which doesn’t broadcast MLB games, has seen its earnings decline and has a roughly $900 million debt payment in October 2024. If it cannot refinance its loans it too will very likely go bankrupt, sources said.

 

That doesn't sound good.

[MattPie]

  On 3/13/2023 at 2:37 AM, Two or less said:

From the article:

Locally, MSG Networks, which doesn’t broadcast MLB games, has seen its earnings decline and has a roughly $900 million debt payment in October 2024. If it cannot refinance its loans it too will very likely go bankrupt, sources said.

 

That doesn't sound good.

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No, it doesn't. I wonder if this is the start of lower-viewership cable networks dying off. I wonder how much of MSG's costs are actual game production vs. other stuff like licensing other content and random shows. I don't think enough people will pay the ~$300/yr for MSG Plus as a standalone product to keep the the game streaming afloat, but if that cost came down a bunch (maybe through another streaming platform) they might be able to make something work.

[Eleven]

  On 3/13/2023 at 11:24 AM, MattPie said:

No, it doesn't. I wonder if this is the start of lower-viewership cable networks dying off. I wonder how much of MSG's costs are actual game production vs. other stuff like licensing other content and random shows. I don't think enough people will pay the ~$300/yr for MSG Plus as a standalone product to keep the the game streaming afloat, but if that cost came down a bunch (maybe through another streaming platform) they might be able to make something work.

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There's nothing watchable on MSG other than live sports, IMO.  (I can get my dose of Marty Biron much more easily over radio.)  And I don't watch any of the sports MSG carries other than hockey.  So yeah, I don't have a lot of use for it outside of the $210 during the NHL season.

[Two or less]

https://thedesk.net/2023/03/sinclair-diamond-sports-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-bally-sports/

This article claims the Buffalo Sabres are among the creditors owed.

[Taro T]

  On 3/15/2023 at 2:16 AM, Two or less said:

https://thedesk.net/2023/03/sinclair-diamond-sports-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-bally-sports/

This article claims the Buffalo Sabres are among the creditors owed.

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And according to that article the Sabres are owed a grand total of $30,100.  Pretty sure they can work something out there.  ;)

[Two or less]

  On 3/15/2023 at 2:29 AM, Taro T said:

And according to that article the Sabres are owed a grand total of $30,100.  Pretty sure they can work something out there.  😉

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Yeah weird, at the top they claim Sabres are among the biggest owned along with Arizona Diamondbacks who are owned $30 million, but then it shows $30k for the Sabres.

[Taro T]

  On 3/15/2023 at 2:32 AM, Two or less said:

Yeah weird, at the top they claim Sabres are among the biggest owned along with Arizona Diamondbacks who are owned $30 million, but then it shows $30k for the Sabres.

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Well, that list is the biggest creditors owed by Diamond Sinclair.  They probably included the Sabres because they're the only sports team besides the Diamondbacks on the list.

(Included in the teaser, that is.)

[Eleven]

  On 3/15/2023 at 2:36 AM, Taro T said:

Well, that list is the biggest creditors owed by Diamond Sinclair.  They probably included the Sabres because they're the only sports team besides the Diamondbacks on the list.

(Included in the teaser, that is.)

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It's just garbage journalism.