Jakob Chychrun scratched for trade related reasons

[Flashsabre]

3 hours ago, Eleven said:

Pegula has never, ever resisted spending money to try to win.  The examples are myriad.  He's made big offers to Babcock, Bylsma, Eichel, Tavares, Richards, Ehrhoff, Leino, Hodgson, Okposo, was ready to do so w/ Stamkos, and many others that do not immediately come to mind.  His GMs haven't always made smart decisions, but the money always has been there until Adams decided to take things a little more slowly (this is not intended as a criticism of Adams; I have other criticisms but this ain't one).

Don’t forget they were in on Parise and Suter with huge offers.

[Taro T]

16 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Don’t forget they were in on Parise and Suter with huge offers.

But it wasn't going to happen.  Kind of like Copp going anywhere but Detroit.

[Thorner]

10 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

All i know Adams cant be this dumb to potentially have over 30 million on this blue line thats just idiotic. 

 

Sounds like a kick ass blue line 

3 hours ago, JohnC said:

I remember a time when KA was on WGR and was asked why he didn't re-sign Ullmark. He said that he and his staff placed a value on the player and weren't willing to go beyond the contract boundaries that they set. He pointed out that this franchise has gotten into a cap bind because it didn't have the discipline and fortitude to say no. He made the point that there will be players that they want to keep but based on how the operation was now going to function they won't be able to keep or pursue some players on the market because of the cost to value ratio. 

If you look at the contracts that have been given to Tage, Sameulsson and Cozens, these can't be categorized as outsized deals (like the Skinner deal) .They could better be described as fair-value deals. If you look at our free agent pickups such as Lyubushkin and Comrie they fall within the value approach to signing players. If you include the Jost pickup all these (ancillary) players are smart and cost-effective additions. 

My general point is that this franchise is being run more smartly and analytically. 

Ullmark decision good for contrasting that the process doesn’t lead to ALL good decisions 

[Flashsabre]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

But it wasn't going to happen.  Kind of like Copp going anywhere but Detroit.

Yes but Pegula was willing to step up with a mega offer. They were always going to go home to Minny but Pegula was all in IF anything changed. They left money on the table from Buffalo to go to Minny.

[JohnC]

24 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Sounds like a kick ass blue line 

Ullmark decision good for contrasting that the process doesn’t lead to ALL good decisions 

I felt not signing Ullmark, even for the premium price that he was demanding, was a mistake. But from an overview standpoint, the GM and organization have been for the most part sound with their player and contract stances. 

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

I felt not signing Ullmark, even for the premium price that he was demanding, was a mistake. But from an overview standpoint, the GM and organization have been for the most part sound with their player and contract stances. 

This is the context under which I accept the Ullmark decision. The understanding that the same process that led to that undesirable outcome, on the goalie front, is the process that has resulted in so many other successful roster decisions. No GM bats 1.000 so what I think we are seeing occasionally are exceptions like Ullmark that prove the rule of the process  

[Sabres Fan in NS]

So, has he been traded yet?

Dude may not play again this season.

[Scottysabres]

1 hour ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:

So, has he been traded yet?

Dude may not play again this season.

The trading team is still removing the bubble wrap? 🤣 

[bob_sauve28]

Is he still sitting out? 

[Buffalonill]

Honestly this is Ridiculous nhl should step in and make them play him now or fine them. Till a deal is officially done

 

[Porous Five Hole]

1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:

Honestly this is Ridiculous nhl should step in and make them play him now or fine them. Till a deal is officially done

 

Why? He’s being paid. He’s a healthy scratch. 

[Buffalonill]

12 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Why? He’s being paid. He’s a healthy scratch. 

 Maybe hes a cancer I see the coyotes  have a winning  Point streak With him out.

 That's alarming everyone

Edited February 21, 2023 by Buffalonill

[mjd1001]

10 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

 Maybe hes a cancer I see the coyotes  have a winning  Point streak With him out.

 That's alarming everyone

14 points in their last 10 games, wins over Tampa and Nashville included, and played a good game and lost in OT vs a streaking Kings team.  Arizona isn't 'good' but they are improving.

[Two or less]

10 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

 Maybe hes a cancer I see the coyotes  have a winning  Point streak With him out.

 That's alarming everyone

Maybe he's hurt? Something minor and Coyotes are like scratching him for an injury would be a bad look.

11 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

Honestly this is Ridiculous nhl should step in and make them play him now or fine them. Till a deal is officially done

 

I agree with you. Not sure what NHL can do, but it's ridiculous. Teams fighting for positioning in the west are able to face a Coyotes team without one of their stars. For a game or two, when a deal is close, sure, but the way it's been its a joke. He's gonna be rusty wherever he goes.

[Doohicksie]

☎️

 

[Eleven]

4 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

☎️

 

Which roster player do they think they're getting?  Bryson?

[Taro T]

3 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Which roster player do they think they're getting?  Bryson?

Asplund.  They've been having very long meaningful conversations every game lately.

[Eleven]

44 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Asplund.  They've been having very long meaningful conversations every game lately.

Over wine and crudités?

[Scottysabres]

Not sure I like the sounds of this, but, in Adam's I'll trust......because I have no choice 😆

Edit: oh, and if we pick up Chychrun, can we get Crouse as well please.

 

I'll let myself out....

Edited February 26, 2023 by Scottysabres

[Weave]

I’m all in on a Chychun+ Crouse deal.

[kas23]

2 hours ago, Doohickie said:

☎️

 

Maybe he just wants to witness the scoring shock and awe?

[Crusader1969]

2 hours ago, Eleven said:

Which roster player do they think they're getting?  Bryson?

If the roster player they give up in any deal is Bryson, Sabres win the trade 

1 hour ago, Weave said:

I’m all in on a Chychun+ Crouse deal.

Didn’t they just resign Crouse to a long term extension?  

[LGR4GM]

I'm still hoping this can get done at a reasonable price. 

[Crusader1969]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

I'm still hoping this can get done at a reasonable price. 

What’s a good but realistic trade ? Think they could get him without including Levi, Kulich or Savoie? 

[Flashsabre]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I'm still hoping this can get done at a reasonable price. 

What do you consider reasonable?

I read somewhere the ask from the Coyotes was Muel, Savoie and 2023 1st.

That would be a hard no from me.