"The NHL is an 85% League"

[LGR4GM]

Thoughts on this?

 

Edited February 1, 2023 by LGR4GM

[SDS]

I would agree 100%. Fans like the give the 110% every shift mantra, but who on earth thinks that is sustainable?

[GASabresIUFAN]

Does that make the NBA a 50% league.  They don’t seem to take it seriously until the playoffs.

Edited February 1, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN

[Weave]

Interesting.  And may explain why young players fade as the season progresses.  If they have to give 100% to stay competitive, what happens when they wear down and the rest of the league is just starting to ramp up?

 

It also explains why the game really starts to change in the last 1/3 of the season.

[thewookie1]

1 minute ago, Weave said:

Interesting.  And may explain why young players fade as the season progresses.  If they have to give 100% to stay competitive, what happens when they wear down and the rest of the league is just starting to ramp up?

 

It also explains why the game really starts to change in the last 1/3 of the season.

It would also explain the common burst a team gets from AHL callups but they rarely last more than a couple games

[Thorner]

Yep. File this under “things people know deep down but generally just don’t like saying out loud”. 

14 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

It would also explain the common burst a team gets from AHL callups but they rarely last more than a couple games

And when players Steve Bernier-out 

[SABRES 0311]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Thoughts on this?

 

Those guys don’t want to be here. 😁

[Mango]

On 1/31/2023 at 8:45 PM, SDS said:

I would agree 100%. Fans like the give the 110% every shift mantra, but who on earth thinks that is sustainable?

So many elite sports are this way. Even the Olympics. If you have to fight to get out of heats, quarters, semis, etc to make a Grand Final, you won’t have enough left in the tank to get a medal. 

To win the Olympics you have to be able to “cruise” through a bit of the event. When 85% are are fighting for their life; you have to save a gear because there are only so many times in a year you can go deep into the well. Then you rave the 15% of the field that made the final at 110%.

Edited February 3, 2023 by Mango

[TheAud]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Does that make the NBA a 50% league.  They don’t seem to take it seriously until the playoffs.

This was my first thought. Compared to regular season NBA games, regular season NHL games are at March Madness level intensity. 

[French Collection]

3 minutes ago, TheAud said:

This was my first thought. Compared to regular season NBA games, regular season NHL games are at March Madness level intensity. 

That is what I like about NHL playoffs and tournaments like the World Juniors, there is closer to 100% effort, all of the time. March Madness is similar too, I don’t watch it anymore, but I preferred it to the NBA for that reason.

[inkman]

2 hours ago, SDS said:

I would agree 100%. Fans like the give the 110% every shift mantra, but who on earth thinks that is sustainable?

I would agree 85%

[dudacek]

Totally agree.

It’s exactly what Granato is taking about when he says the young players have learn to play the game “efficiently” and learn that “you don’t have to win every shift”.

It’s no different from the philosophy of not sacrificing winning long-term for winning tonight. The NHL regular season is marathon, not a sprint.

[pi2000]

Without a doubt, the goal should be 110% every single shift, start to finish.

There will be ups and downs, moments where you just don't have it, but that doesn't mean you intentionally take shifts off.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

[Andrew Amerk]

44 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

Without a doubt, the goal should be 110% every single shift, start to finish.

There will be ups and downs, moments where you just don't have it, but that doesn't mean you intentionally take shifts off.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

Have you ever eaten 110% of a pizza that you ordered?

[Taro T]

25 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said:

Have you ever eaten 110% of a pizza that you ordered?

Regurgitation...

[Richard Noggin]

29 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said:

Have you ever eaten 110% of a pizza that you ordered?

 

Felt like it, at least.

[nucci]

This is nothing new. Common sense would tell you players wear down as season progresses. A shorter regular season would make for better playoffs

[steveoath]

And good coaching/player development should make our guy's 85% better and more impactful than 100% of the other guy.

 

 

[inkman]

5 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said:

Have you ever eaten 110% of a pizza that you ordered?

Only if you eat the cheese and toppings that fell off 

[OrangeSeatVertigo]

11 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Does that make the NBA a 50% league.  They don’t seem to take it seriously until the playoffs.

I certainly don't 

[tom webster]

Like someone else said, this seems like common sense. The trick is trying to stagger out when your players are holding back so you have a competitive chance in most of the games. Also, another reason you need a goalie capable of steeling a game here and there.

Edited February 1, 2023 by tom webster

[French Collection]

2 minutes ago, tom webster said:

Like someone else said, this seems like common sense. The trick is trying to stagger out when your players are holding back so you have a competitive chance in most of the games. Also, another reason you need a goalie capable of steeling a game here and there.

I think an eye opener for managers has been how few Presidents Trophy winners go on to win the Stanley Cup.

Teams that finish first have probably expended extra energy to claim that title and may not have another gear for the playoffs.

Tampa is a recent example of comfortably getting into the playoffs and grinding out deep runs.

[GASabresIUFAN]

There has got to be a Yogi-ism in here somewhere.  Maybe “NHL players give 110% 100% of the time in 85% of their games”?

[Eleven]

I wish I could go back and find all the posts where I've said that these guys can't go 100% all the time only to be told that I'm too much of a "Buffalo fan" who accepts losing.

[LabattBlue]

So from here forward in every GDT will there be mentions of 85% if they win, and 15% if they lose? 😂