GASabresIUFAN Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/bobby-hull-hockey-hall-of-famer-and-blackhawks-legend-dies-at-84/ HOFer and father of Sabres nemesis Brett Hull has passed away. Quote
Eleven Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 I was hoping we'd just ignore this. Quote
tom webster Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Eleven said: I was hoping we'd just ignore this. 1 minute ago, Eleven said: I was hoping we'd just ignore this. Yes, he was a scumbag. Quote
Quint Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) So long Bobby. One of the all-time great shooters, colorful and "Canadian strong." He allegedly did and said some bad things, he was certainly flawed, but a hockey legend nonetheless. Plus he was born on my b-day. Edited January 31, 2023 by Quint Quote
SABRES 0311 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Quint said: So long Bobby. One of the all-time great shooters, colorful and "Canadian strong." He allegedly did and said some bad things, he was certainly flawed, but a hockey legend nonetheless. Plus he was born on my b-day. He was ripped! Don’t know what he said/did probably because he was before my time. Quote
tom webster Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Quint said: So long Bobby. One of the all-time great shooters, colorful and "Canadian strong." He allegedly did and said some bad things, he was certainly flawed, but a hockey legend nonetheless. Plus he was born on my b-day. No “allegedly” about it. Quote
Punch Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 He was misquoted, he actually said “Sittler had some good ideas.” 2 1 Quote
Stoner Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 It's a tough one. What if Rick's been engaging in midget wrestling all these years and ArtVoice prints the story? 1 Quote
tom webster Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: It's a tough one. What if Rick's been engaging in midget wrestling all these years and ArtVoice prints the story? Hmm, midget wrestling vs. wife beater/ nazi supporter. Quote
Stoner Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, tom webster said: Hmm, midget wrestling vs. wife beater/ nazi supporter. Do you think a midget can consent to being choked out with suspenders? Nazi supporter? Now you're showing your hand. Hull sued that particular publication BTW. Quote
sabills Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Do you think a midget can consent to being choked out with suspenders? Nazi supporter? Now you're showing your hand. Hull sued that particular publication BTW. He may have sued them, but he didn't deny saying it in that lawsuit, just that he somehow meant it with contempt? Quote
Stoner Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 Is speech free if exercising it results in your cancellation? 1 Quote
Weave Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Is speech free if exercising it results in your cancellation? Yes. Every action we take has repercussions. Some good, some bad. 2 Quote
tom webster Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 53 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Do you think a midget can consent to being choked out with suspenders? Nazi supporter? Now you're showing your hand. Hull sued that particular publication BTW. Showing my hand? I actually like when idiots like him speak their minds. It shows how idiotic and contemptible they really are but I hold how they treat woman and bully everyone that I hold with much greater contempt. The midgets might willingly get into a ring or allow themselves to be human bowling balls but I’m sure the woman in Bobby’s life didn’t consent to the abuse they took. 13 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Is speech free if exercising it results in your cancellation? Does anyone have the right to assume they are relevant? Speak all you want. Expect anyone to care? Not so much. Quote
sabills Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Is speech free if exercising it results in your cancellation? Freedom of speech protects you from government prosecution if you say what you want. It doesn't protect you from people thinking you're an *****. Edited January 31, 2023 by sabills 1 Quote
French Collection Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 Great hockey player. Not so great a person. He was not exactly embraced by the NHL, despite his accomplishments. The body language between him and Brett was very cold. I met Bobby Jr. almost 40 years ago, he didn’t want to talk about his dad. Quote
LabattBlue Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Quint said: So long Bobby. One of the all-time great shooters, colorful and "Canadian strong." He allegedly did and said some bad things, he was certainly flawed, but a hockey legend nonetheless. Plus he was born on my b-day. Not saying it is, but every time over the years that I have seen this pic, it just screams photoshop. 😂 Edited January 31, 2023 by LabattBlue 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) When I first got into ice hockey Hull was a super star with the big slap shot and he had set the goal scoring record for 58 goals in a season. He was a must see player when the Sabres came to town in 1970. When you broke a hockey stick you went out and bought a plastic end to replace the wooden blade. Great for street hockey because the plastic lasted a very long time. You could heat the plastic over the stove and then bend a curve into the blade. Many of us put big curves in - what we called "Bobby Hull banana curves" on our sticks. I don't really know if Hull actually used a big curve, but in my neighborhood he somehow got the notoriety for it. Of course when your slap shots consistently go flying harmlessly over the net, and you cant take a backhand shot or make a pass, you realize you have to get back to the stove and tame that curve a bit. LOL 😂 After awhile I started hearing about his off ice problems. Lots of drinking, smoking, and carousing in those days. Later the stories just got worse. Not sure I believe the Russian press Hitler story but usually, were there is smoke there is fire. Edited January 31, 2023 by Pimlach 1 Quote
Stoner Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, tom webster said: Showing my hand? I actually like when idiots like him speak their minds. It shows how idiotic and contemptible they really are but I hold how they treat woman and bully everyone that I hold with much greater contempt. The midgets might willingly get into a ring or allow themselves to be human bowling balls but I’m sure the woman in Bobby’s life didn’t consent to the abuse they took. Does anyone have the right to assume they are relevant? Speak all you want. Expect anyone to care? Not so much. Yes you tipped your hand by exaggerating something he might have said. Even if he said Hitler did some good things, it doesn't make him a Nazi supporter. I think Trump did a few good things. I don't support the MAGA movement. 18 minutes ago, Pimlach said: When I first got into ice hockey Hull was a super star with the big slap shot and he had set the goal scoring record for 58 goals in a season. He was a must see player when the Sabres came to town in 1970. When you broke a hockey stick you went out and bought a plastic end to replace the wooden blade. Great for street hockey because the plastic lasted a very long time. You could heat the plastic over the stove and then bend a curve into the blade. Many of us put big curves in - what we called "Bobby Hull banana curves" on our sticks. I don't really know if Hull actually used a big curve, but in my neighborhood he somehow got the notoriety for it. Of course when your slap shots consistently go flying harmlessly over the net, and you cant take a backhand shot or make a pass, you realize you have to get back to the stove and tame that curve a bit. LOL 😂 After awhile I started hearing about his off ice problems. Lots of drinking, smoking, and carousing in those days. Later the stories just got worse. Not sure I believe the Russian press Hitler story but usually, were there is smoke there is fire. You mean Russia state media during the Cold War might have made up a story to make an American sports icon look bad? 1 1 Quote
tom webster Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Yes you tipped your hand by exaggerating something he might have said. Even if he said Hitler did some good things, it doesn't make him a Nazi supporter. I think Trump did a few good things. I don't support the MAGA movement. You mean Russia state media during the Cold War might have made up a story to make an American sports icon look bad? And you, going out of your way to defend the creep, I guess that says all I need to know. Thank you. 3 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: You mean Russia state media during the Cold War might have made up a story to make an American sports icon look bad? When I was a very young boy I liked him because he was really good at hockey. That is all I knew about him. Take the Russian press incident away. There is still more than enough out there were Hull comes of very bad. Bad in any decade, and through any lens that I have looked and lived through. 1 Quote
Goldseatsaud Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 The guy with that curved hockey stick. Quote
Stoner Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 3 hours ago, tom webster said: And you, going out of your way to defend the creep, I guess that says all I need to know. Thank you. Everyone deserves a defense. Well, almost everyone. Tony Danza does not. The man's life is over. He made many mistakes. There's a complete story to be told. Whitewashing people is dangerous. If modern standards of cancellation were applied to this board, few would be left. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: Everyone deserves a defense. Well, almost everyone. Tony Danza does not. The man's life is over. He made many mistakes. There's a complete story to be told. Whitewashing people is dangerous. If modern standards of cancellation were applied to this board, few would be left. I’m intrigued by this concept of “modern standards of cancellation.” Personally, I don’t think the “standards” have changed since we were painting on cave walls. Quote
JohnC Posted February 1, 2023 Report Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, K-9 said: I’m intrigued by this concept of “modern standards of cancellation.” Personally, I don’t think the “standards” have changed since we were painting on cave walls. There are people who due to religion, culture or simply personal views have different (less modern) opinions on race, women, sexuality etc. that are contrary to the mainstream/prevailing view on these topics. Often, these people do get excoriated and sometimes cancelled because of their minority beliefs. Although, I'm more likely to disagree with these less than enlightened/modern views, it has to be acknowledged that there is less tolerance for those holding those views. In addition, due to social media and the internet (modern communication) there is an intensity and swiftness of response that didn't exist a number of years ago to comments that are not aligned with the majority view. As an example: Dave Chapelle is a comedian whose views are usually very updated and liberal. He has made comments about gays and transgenders in his act that many found offensive. And because of it there were some who try to get him cancelled. He's a stubborn and strong-willed guy whose response was to double down on issues/responses that some considered controversial. Quote
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