thewookie1 Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:33 PM, Thorny said: No Expand I think 9.99 might be possible but that’s still a bit of a stretch
Mr. Allen Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:33 PM, Thorny said: No Expand You don’t think so? Makar, Miro and Fox are all under 10, aren’t they? And I think those are recent signings
LGR4GM Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 4:23 PM, tom webster said: I feel like we are arguing the same point but whatever. I like how Jost and Mitts have played and Mitts especially has surprised me but I think they both can and should be improved upon next year. Expand I've done this before, Mitts is scoring just below Bostons 3rd line. Idk how you expect or demand better from a 3rd line.
LGR4GM Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 6:27 PM, Huckleberry said: Disagree on that, Jost can be our 4C easy for years to come if he keeps playing like this. But someone needs to step up first and take his 3C spot away. Expand Krebs is going to do it.
Thorner Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:42 PM, thewookie1 said: I think 9.99 might be possible but that’s still a bit of a stretch Expand Ya. Nope.
tom webster Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:43 PM, LGR4GM said: I've done this before, Mitts is scoring just below Bostons 3rd line. Idk how you expect or demand better from a 3rd line. Expand It’s not just about scoring. Is your opinion that the Sabres are a Cup contender with the top ten you mentioned previously? Assuming, of course, that JJP and Quinn continue to develop, and not thinking about defense and goalie for this point. if so, that’s fine, I disagree but I don’t think it’s impossible to consider.
Thorner Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:43 PM, Mr. Allen said: You don’t think so? Makar, Miro and Fox are all under 10, aren’t they? And I think those are recent signings Expand Maybe all our players will sign for well under market value by choice and we can just sit on 30 mil of cap space that we aren’t going to use, anyways, because we don’t bring in players from the outside that need to be paid, correct? We’ll be the first perennial cup team in history that did so without even needing to worry about salary - Pegula will be happy, at least. We aren’t just going to win the cup, it’ll be the greatest cup by way of value that’s ever been awarded - - - Heiskanen isn’t close to Dahlin Fox isn’t quite as good, and will have signed 2 years earlier than Dahlin, and already makes 9.5. Why would a better player, 2 years later, take the same amount? Dahlin/Makar a toss up for ability but again, Makar will have signed a full 2 years earlier. - - - Cozens deal is a smart re-up that avoids bridging. We save money. That’s not an Adams thing that’s a league thing This is exactly what Adams *declined* to do with Dahlin. He’s already been bridged. He’s getting 10+
LGR4GM Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:55 PM, tom webster said: It’s not just about scoring. Is your opinion that the Sabres are a Cup contender with the top ten you mentioned previously? Assuming, of course, that JJP and Quinn continue to develop, and not thinking about defense and goalie for this point. if so, that’s fine, I disagree but I don’t think it’s impossible to consider. Expand Yes. I do.
LGR4GM Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:57 PM, Thorny said: Maybe all our players will sign for well under market value by choice and we can just sit on 30 mil of cap space that we aren’t going to use, anyways, because we don’t bring in players from the outside that need to be paid, correct? We’ll be the first perennial cup team in history that did so without even needing to worry about salary - Pegula will be happy, at least. We aren’t just going to win the cup, it’ll be the greatest cup by way of value that’s ever been awarded - - - Heiskanen isn’t close to Dahlin Fox isn’t quite as good, and will have signed 2 years earlier than Dahlin, and already makes 9.5. Why would a better player, 2 years later, take the same amount? Dahlin/Makar a toss up for ability but again, Makar will have signed a full 2 years earlier. - - - Cozens deal is a smart re-up that avoids bridging. We save money. That’s not an Adams thing that’s a league thing This is exactly what Adams *declined* to do with Dahlin. He’s already been bridged. He’s getting 10+ Expand I'm hoping Dahlin takes 9.5x8
tom webster Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:58 PM, LGR4GM said: Yes. I do. Expand I hope you are right. If you are, all those prospects should be able to be turned into the best depth, best defensive corp, best goaltending ever.
Thorner Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:43 PM, LGR4GM said: I've done this before, Mitts is scoring just below Bostons 3rd line. Idk how you expect or demand better from a 3rd line. Expand I think our differential re: forwards is about mid-pack though, right? I don’t think anyone could say we don’t have the offensive talent of a potential contender once some of the younger players develop - it’ll be interesting to see if their defensive game rounds out to the level where it’s good enough overall.
LGR4GM Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 10:01 PM, Thorny said: I think our differential re: forwards is about mid-pack though, right? I don’t think anyone could say we don’t have the offensive talent of a potential contender once some of the younger players develop - it’ll be interesting to see if their defensive game rounds out to the level where it’s good enough overall. Expand Jack Quinn already has a burgeoning defensive game.
Thorner Posted February 4, 2023 Report Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 10:03 PM, LGR4GM said: Jack Quinn already has a burgeoning defensive game. Expand Ya he isn’t going to be one of the options for internal replacement
Taro T Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 1:16 PM, Brawndo said: Expand Holy Mother of God, this day just keeps getting better & better. 😉 1
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 12:52 AM, Taro T said: Holy Mother of God, this day just keeps getting better & better. 😉 Expand That would be great news. Didn’t Chad also report KA had Ullmark signed to an extension? I’ll believe it when I see it. 1
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 10:00 PM, LGR4GM said: I'm hoping Dahlin takes 9.5x8 Expand That would be a Christmas, Passover, Eid and every other major holiday miracle for sure. I hope that you are right and if that letter *he* penned to the fans is really legit it certianly is possible. 1
inkman Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 3:44 AM, GASabresIUFAN said: That would be great news. Didn’t Chad also report KA had Ullmark signed to an extension? I’ll believe it when I see it. Expand I never heard that
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 3:38 PM, inkman said: I never heard that Expand I went back and looked at the Ullmark thread and Vogl (and @tom webster) said they were close to an extension. We all remember how that turned out. I hope they get this done asap.
Brawndo Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) On 2/5/2023 at 3:44 AM, GASabresIUFAN said: That would be great news. Didn’t Chad also report KA had Ullmark signed to an extension? I’ll believe it when I see it. Expand On 2/5/2023 at 3:38 PM, inkman said: I never heard that Expand Lance Lysowski and a few other reporters were said the Sabres were confident in their negotiations about Ullmark’s Extension from just before the TDL up to the start of UFA. No one reported the extension was complete. Chad did have the Tage Contract Extension three hours before any of the NHL Insiders did, in this case Kevin Weekes was the first one. Edited February 5, 2023 by Brawndo
tom webster Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 4:08 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: I went back and looked at the Ullmark thread and Vogl (and @tom webster) said they were close to an extension. We all remember how that turned out. I hope they get this done asap. Expand To be honest, I said I was told it was done. Still believe KA overplayed his hand but it’s all ancient history now. Might be the only thing he really missed on so far. 1
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 4:16 PM, tom webster said: To be honest, I said I was told it was done. Still believe KA overplayed his hand but it’s all ancient history now. Might be the only thing he really missed on so far. Expand Yep. He was penny wise, pound foolish. Just think where we would be with "Ullmark level" goaltending. We'd be easily in the playoff spot. However the lesson is until the Sabres announce the signing, the deal isn't done. 1
Zamboni Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 I love how some think that if you drop a player into a completely different team, they would play as good if not better than their current team they play for. Does it happen? Yes. Is it an absolute fact it will happen? No.
freester Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 4:21 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: Yep. He was penny wise, pound foolish. Just think where we would be with "Ullmark level" goaltending. We'd be easily in the playoff spot. However the lesson is until the Sabres announce the signing, the deal isn't done. Expand We had “Ullmark level” goaltending when he was here. The reason he’s suddenly a Vezina candidate is that Boston has excellent defensemen and excellent defensive forwards and a more defensive scheme than we do.
Thorner Posted February 5, 2023 Report Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) On 2/5/2023 at 2:39 PM, Sabres Fan in NS said: That would be a Christmas, Passover, Eid and every other major holiday miracle for sure. I hope that you are right and if that letter *he* penned to the fans is really legit it certianly is possible. Expand As much as I want to be sarcastic about it, ya, it’s possible. I just think it’s very unlikely he comes in at under 10 and I wouldn’t start to get my hopes up for something that unlikely. It’s no sweat anyways because of the other value contracts we’ll have. If at the end of the day he’s willing to sign for below what he’s worth maybe we see a deal in at 9.5, I’m certainly not complaining. Just see it starting w/ a “1”. Edited February 5, 2023 by Thorny
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