Hinostroza on waivers and CLEARS 1/19/2023

[LGR4GM]

 

Edited January 20, 2023 by LGR4GM

[MattPie]

Have to think this was an ask by Vinnie instead of being in the press box most games. Or the NHL quietly put pressure on the Sabres for skirting the rules with all the loans (I have no proof of that, of course).

Edited January 18, 2023 by MattPie

[SABRES 0311]

Haven’t seen much play from him this year but from what I have seen he doesn’t seem like a liability. In fact I think he’s a decent bottom six. Then again I’m not in the know.

[Zamboni]

That sucks I like him as a depth player.  Hope he clears.

[Eleven]

It's the right move for both the team and the player.

[tom webster]

30 minutes ago, MattPie said:

Have to think this was an ask by Vinnie instead of being in the press box most games. Or the NHL quietly put pressure on the Sabres for skirting the rules with all the loans (I have no proof of that, of course).

The NHL isn’t going to say boo about this any more then they say anything about the use of LTIR.

The NHLPA, however, may have an issue considering the effect on the player’s salaries.

[Doohicksie]

Thank you for your service, Vinnie.  You're a great guy and a good player.

[matter2003]

32 minutes ago, Zamboni said:

That sucks I like him as a depth player.  Hope he clears.

Me too...the dude is like a gnat out there on the ice chasing other players around and causing headaches.

[Taro T]

16 minutes ago, tom webster said:

The NHL isn’t going to say boo about this any more then they say anything about the use of LTIR.

The NHLPA, however, may have an issue considering the effect on the player’s salaries.

NHLPA isn't going to say boo because this really won't effect the total salary in the NHL.  He makes $1.7MM.  Roughly $1MM would still count against the cap if he clears & UPL only makes ~$750k.

Besides the PA seems to care more about the handful of stars rather than the hundreds of journeymen.

Good for Adams finally biting this bullet.  Hope he clears, but doubt he does.

[Weave]

I bet someone picks up Vinnie, and I bet he proves his play valuable to that team.

Sucks for us, but Vinnie should be playing.

[steveoath]

He'll end up in Boston and be great. 

[Porous Five Hole]

3 minutes ago, steveoath said:

He'll end up in Boston and be great. 

Yes, with their 33k in cap space 😂

[Taro T]

9 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Yes, with their 33k in cap space 😂

It's OK, they'll trade for Bishop and magically gain enough cap space.   🤔

😉

 

[tom webster]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

NHLPA isn't going to say boo because this really won't effect the total salary in the NHL.  He makes $1.7MM.  Roughly $1MM would still count against the cap if he clears & UPL only makes ~$750k.

Besides the PA seems to care more about the handful of stars rather than the hundreds of journeymen.

Good for Adams finally biting this bullet.  Hope he clears, but doubt he does.

My point was how the paper transactions costs Krebs, Quinn and UPL, not Vinny.

[dudacek]

49 minutes ago, Weave said:

I bet someone picks up Vinnie, and I bet he proves his play valuable to that team.

Sucks for us, but Vinnie should be playing.

Vinnie is an NHL hockey player and good teammate.

He is not one of the Sabres 12 best forwards, at least he hasn't been this year.

For selfish reasons, I hope he clears; he's good depth. For him, I hope he finds a place to play.

But he's not as good right now as Krebs, Quinn or Peterka (or, for that matter, Girgensons, Mittelstadt or Olofsson) and should not be playing ahead of them.

Edited January 18, 2023 by dudacek

[Taro T]

27 minutes ago, tom webster said:

My point was how the paper transactions costs Krebs, Quinn and UPL, not Vinny.

And mine was towards how w/ the players receiving a set percentage of the total HRR, the bigger (or smaller) the entire cumulative leaguewide salary is, the bigger (or smaller) the denominator being used with an individual player's salary is the smaller (or bigger) each players' actual take home pay is.

With the players & contracts involved, it will have almost no effect on any player not actively involved in these gymnastics.  

But, yes, for the 4 guys in the yo yo derby, it has a big effect on take home pay.

[Thorner]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

Vinnie is an NHL hockey player and good teammate.

He is not one of the Sabres 12 best forwards, at least he hasn't been this year.

For selfish reasons, I hope he clears; he's good depth. For him, I hope he finds a place to play.

But he's not as good right now as Krebs, Quinn or Peterka (or, for that matter, Girgensons, Mittelstadt or Olofsson) and should not be playing ahead of them.

Best player we’ve waivered in years. In that, he’s actually an NHL player 

[Thorner]

Site has been real slow to load on iPhone lately. Wonder if that’s just me 

[Norcal]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

Site has been real slow to load on iPhone lately. Wonder if that’s just me 

Too many uploaded tweets prolly 

[Marvin]

He and Asplund were insurance against injuries and problems that Peterka and Quinn might have had.  Without either of those happening, I guess this was inevitable.  Good luck to him.

[GASabresIUFAN]

11 minutes ago, Marvin said:

He and Asplund were insurance against injuries and problems that Peterka and Quinn might have had.  Without either of those happening, I guess this was inevitable.  Good luck to him.

He was squeezed out.  He was insurance as you say, but I believe that management has seen enough from guys like Rousek, Biro, Murray etc  down in Rochester to think that they would be just as effective if called up.  

[Contempt]

Vinny has IKEA hands. All Swedish...no Finnish.  He can skate though. Somebody will pick him up and his career as a 4th liner will continue until he can no longer skate.

[pi2000]

He's definitely getting picked up.    I'll guess Florida, Arizona, Chicago, Winnipeg, NYI, NYR, Caps, Kings, Stars, Hurricanes, Kraken, Wild, Toronto, Tampa, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver, Ducks, Avalanche, Calgary, Detroit, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Philly or Edmonton.

[PerreaultForever]

I doubt he gets pick up with that salary (deadline deals looming and all that) for what he brings (not much) but we can all relax, we're still about a million above the floor :}

 

[GASabresIUFAN]

43 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

He's definitely getting picked up.    I'll guess Florida, Arizona, Chicago, Winnipeg, NYI, NYR, Caps, Kings, Stars, Hurricanes, Kraken, Wild, Toronto, Tampa, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver, Ducks, Avalanche, Calgary, Detroit, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Philly or Edmonton.

That would be great. Maybe they’ll have to cut a D we could use.