Sabres Trade Deadline 2023 Discussion

[mjd1001]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Enough double talk.   I am arguing one side.  It’s Adams  job to improve the team. They are in the playoff run.  They are short defenseman.   He needs to be all in.  You are worried about the players feelings, and I said Adams is in charge, not the players.  

You are the one with double talk, try following the whole conversations.  Again, I NEVER said Adams should take the players feelings into consideration. NEVER, you just must want to make your point at the expense of my post.  Let me summarize this for you again, the post i was RESPONDING to basically stated that he needed to show the players he would make a move for them.  If you are arguing that what the players say doesn't matter, then that is the same point I was making. I was saying him 'making a move to show the players' he is willing to doesn't matter, because it can be taken either way. I was making a COUNTER point to the original posting.

Its cute how YOU are responding to MY post saying "enough double talk" when that is not what my post was even about, if you actually read the post I was responding to before replying to me.  Wow, you guys got to get a grip about going after other people with an attitude just to say what you want to say.

[dudacek]

I would invest not insignificant assets for Demko.

Not any of last year’s 1sts, but maybe UPL and Rosen or something similar? Launder some Canucks cap?

This year’s poor season doesn’t wash away his resume. Guy is much better than this board gives him credit for.

Improves us now, and, at worst, walks us comfortably to Levi.

 

[dudacek]

I’m all on board with Chychrun.

Disagree pretty strongly with the “not the right type argument”.

What we need more than a stay-at-home guy is an all-situations guy who is net positive and can play Donnie’s system.

That is Chychrun.

He’s a very good player in a position of need for 2 years on a good salary.

Watching today it was very easy to see him replacing any of our top 3 capably in exactly their roles.

If we’re healthy, he gives us 3 strong pairs.

Im in.

[Pimlach]

11 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

You are the one with double talk, try following the whole conversations.  Again, I NEVER said Adams should take the players feelings into consideration. NEVER, you just must want to make your point at the expense of my post.  Let me summarize this for you again, the post i was RESPONDING to basically stated that he needed to show the players he would make a move for them.  If you are arguing that what the players say doesn't matter, then that is the same point I was making. I was saying him 'making a move to show the players' he is willing to doesn't matter, because it can be taken either way. I was making a COUNTER point to the original posting.

Its cute how YOU are responding to MY post saying "enough double talk" when that is not what my post was even about, if you actually read the post I was responding to before replying to me.  Wow, you guys got to get a grip about going after other people with an attitude just to say what you want to say.

[aristocrat]

 

[Marvin]

1 minute ago, dudacek said:

I’m all on board with Chychrun.

Disagree pretty strongly with the “not the right type argument”.

What we need more than a stay-at-home guy is an all-situations guy who is net positive and can play Donnie’s system.

That is Chychrun.

He’s a very good player in a position of need for 2 years on a good salary.

Watching today it was very easy to see him replacing any of our top 3 capably in exactly their roles.

If we’re healthy, he gives us 3 strong pairs.

Im in.

This is the interesting position on Chychrun for Buffalo.  Have 3 pairs who can all play 20 minutes, but go to 2 pairs late in games when you are behind.  How do people feel about that option?

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, dudacek said:

I’m all on board with Chychrun.

Disagree pretty strongly with the “not the right type argument”.

What we need more than a stay-at-home guy is an all-situations guy who is net positive and can play Donnie’s system.

That is Chychrun.

He’s a very good player in a position of need for 2 years on a good salary.

Watching today it was very easy to see him replacing any of our top 3 capably in exactly their roles.

If we’re healthy, he gives us 3 strong pairs.

Im in.

Would you be willing to include Quinn in a deal for Chychrun? I wouldn't. Arizona is not going to deal him for chump change. They are going to want multiple high end prospects. I wouldn't recommend paying that price. I would prefer pursuing a Lyubushkin third pairing caliber player to bolster the blue line.  

[triumph_communes]

I want Jensen 

[aristocrat]

Just now, JohnC said:

Would you be willing to include Quinn in a deal for Chychrun? I wouldn't. Arizona is not going to deal him for chump change. They are going to want multiple high end prospects. I wouldn't recommend paying that price. I would prefer pursuing a Lyubushkin third pairing caliber player to bolster the blue line.  

Luke schenn is your man. 

[Porous Five Hole]

Just now, JohnC said:

Would you be willing to include Quinn in a deal for Chychrun? I wouldn't. Arizona is not going to deal him for chump change. They are going to want multiple high end prospects. I wouldn't recommend paying that price. I would prefer pursuing a Lyubushkin third pairing caliber player to bolster the blue line.  

Based on how long the trade saga has been going, I think you’re right that they’re overplaying their hand and asking for more than market value. I agree there’s simply no way Quinn is involved in this trade.

[JohnC]

Just now, aristocrat said:

Luke schenn is your man. 

That's the track I'm talking about. 👍

[Porous Five Hole]

2 minutes ago, triumph_communes said:

I want Jensen 

This is the perfect rental. And cost to acquire for 24 games of his services will be palatable.  I support this. 

[dudacek]

16 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Would you be willing to include Quinn in a deal for Chychrun? I wouldn't. Arizona is not going to deal him for chump change. They are going to want multiple high end prospects. I wouldn't recommend paying that price. I would prefer pursuing a Lyubushkin third pairing caliber player to bolster the blue line.  

No.

And Arizona will not be getting a Quinn-level prospect when they trade him. He’s not that good.

Something around Rosen, a protected 1st, Portillo and a 2nd would be higher than most teams will be willing to go.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Just now, dudacek said:

No.

And Arizona will not be getting a Quinn-level prospect when they trade him. He’s not that good.

Something around Rosen, a protected 1st, Portillo and a 2nd would be higher than most teams will be willing to go.

I'm good with that.  I'm also good with getting just Schenn or Jensen or even both.

I still want Greenway.

[triumph_communes]

Chychurins value is that we don’t have to worry about having zero defensive prospects the next few years 

[JohnC]

Just now, dudacek said:

No.

And Arizona will not be getting a Quinn-level prospect when they trade him. He’s not that good.

Something around Rosen, a protected 1st, Portillo and a 2nd would be higher than most teams will be willing to go.

From our end of the proposed deal, I would make it. I don't see Arizona agreeing to your proposal. 

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, dudacek said:

No.

And Arizona will not be getting a Quinn-level prospect when they trade him. He’s not that good.

Something around Rosen, a protected 1st, Portillo and a 2nd would be higher than most teams will be willing to go.

Does Portillo have ANY value at all?  Really not expecting it.

[dudacek]

7 minutes ago, JohnC said:

From our end of the proposed deal, I would make it. I don't see Arizona agreeing to your proposal. 

It beats their ask of the equivalent of 2 1sts and a lesser prospect

7 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Does Portillo have ANY value at all?  Really not expecting it.

Yes. Jack McBain was traded to Arizona for a high 2nd-rounder last year under exactly the same circumstances.

A team bereft of goalies in their system who offers the type of opportunity Portillo is looking for will offer up a pick, although I doubt it will be that high.

I think is more likely to move as a sweetener in a larger trade. The Sabres save face, the other team gets a free asset.

Edited February 26, 2023 by dudacek

[JohnC]

4 minutes ago, dudacek said:

It beats their ask of the equivalent of 2 1sts and a lesser prospect

Yes. Jack McBain was traded to Arizona for a high 2nd-rounder last year under exactly the same circumstances.

A team bereft of goalies in their system who offers the type of opportunity Portillo is looking for will offer up a pick, although I doubt it will be that high.

I think is more likely to move as a sweetener in a larger trade. The Sabres save face, the other team gets a free asset.

I just don't see a trade with Buffalo materializing. I'm not even sure if KA is interested in Chychrun. 

[Weave]

1 hour ago, Thorny said:

the dark side of the board is a pathway to many posts some would consider to be...unreadable 

We should Make GA form every other post as a haiku to counteract the other posts that are novelas.

[dudacek]

2 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I just don't see a trade with Buffalo materializing. I'm not even sure if KA is interested in Chychrun. 

Hard to say what he’s interested in given all he’s had to say is they aren’t interested in short-term gain for long-term pain.

But he should be. He does say he is interested in improving the team and Chychrun certainly does that. He’s not a rental and he’s only 24.

Adams does say that he’s interested if the price is right.

[JohnC]

7 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Hard to say what he’s interested in given all he’s had to say is they aren’t interested in short-term gain for long-term pain.

But he should be. He does say he is interested in improving the team and Chychrun certainly does that. He’s not a rental and he’s only 24.

Adams does say that he’s interested if the price is right.

That's KA's mantra! 

Chychrun sure would be a major addition to the unit. It's simply my "impression" that the GM is not as interested in this particular player as the crowd is. Maybe I'm wrong on that. Whether he is or not targeting him I would love to see an addition made to the unit. On that issue I'm sure we are in accord. 

[TageMVP]

All I know is that the time is right now to make a trade for some defensive reinforcements

Don't want another 2006 playoffs problem on our hands 

[Crusader1969]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I would invest not insignificant assets for Demko.

Not any of last year’s 1sts, but maybe UPL and Rosen or something similar? Launder some Canucks cap?

This year’s poor season doesn’t wash away his resume. Guy is much better than this board gives him credit for.

Improves us now, and, at worst, walks us comfortably to Levi.

 

I like UPL but this trade makes sense for both teams

 

[Taro T]

Anybody else psyched at the fact that Friday will be interesting all day as the Sabres MAY actually be looking to add for the 1st time in seemingly forever? Trade deadline day used to be such fun and it has been a non-event around here for years.