Taro T Posted December 21, 2022 Report Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 7:52 PM, DarthEbriate said: Your memory serves you well. It was HCPH's last season... the team sat atop the NHL standings on 11/27/2018 after a 10-game winning streak... and earned 16 more wins (edited) the rest of the season. In early February 2019, it looks like Skinner was moved off the top line in an attempt to kickstart everyone again (it worked, they beat the Wild 5-4 in a shootout). Then it was back to business as usual. It appears (by my very incomplete records) that the true demotion of Skinner from the top line coincided with Eichel's 2-game suspension in March. 3/14/2019 vs. PIT - Sheary-Rodrigues-Reinhart / Skinner-Sobotka-Pominville Now that's a top 6! VO eventually was called up for a look-see and took over the top line LW spot to close out the season (and Thompson was sent to Rochester in a corresponding move). Skinner wrapped the season on line 2 with ERod and Okposo. Expand Not quite. At the very end of the season w/ the writing on the wall for Housley he bumped Skinner back onto Eichel's line & he found the last goals to get to 40 and that outrageous contract. 1
DarthEbriate Posted December 22, 2022 Report Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 11:04 PM, Taro T said: Not quite. At the very end of the season w/ the writing on the wall for Housley he bumped Skinner back onto Eichel's line & he found the last goals to get to 40 and that outrageous contract. Expand Perhaps in-game the lines were adjusted (and maybe the season-ending one vs. Detroit), but from my nightly lineups, he was on the ERod line for 3/31, 4/2, and 4/4. I did a little digging for the last 6 games: 4/6 v. DET 2 goals - unassisted, Dahlin; 4/4 v. OTT 0G, 0A; 4/2 v. NSH 1G (Montour, ERod); 3/31 v. CMB 0G,0A; 3/30 v. NYI 0G,0A; 3/28 v. DET 1A (on a Mitts goal; and then Eichel scored 41 seconds later from VO's 1st assist and Reino). I can't find the stats to show he got back on the top line. 1
Taro T Posted December 22, 2022 Report Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 12:37 AM, DarthEbriate said: Perhaps in-game the lines were adjusted (and maybe the season-ending one vs. Detroit), but from my nightly lineups, he was on the ERod line for 3/31, 4/2, and 4/4. I did a little digging for the last 6 games: 4/6 v. DET 2 goals - unassisted, Dahlin; 4/4 v. OTT 0G, 0A; 4/2 v. NSH 1G (Montour, ERod); 3/31 v. CMB 0G,0A; 3/30 v. NYI 0G,0A; 3/28 v. DET 1A (on a Mitts goal; and then Eichel scored 41 seconds later from VO's 1st assist and Reino). I can't find the stats to show he got back on the top line. Expand Could've sworn he was on Eichel's line most of that final game. Will try to find it. 1
Brawndo Posted December 22, 2022 Report Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 8:46 PM, Buffalonill said: That music Is absolutely horrible . Expand I do not think when Tank and Bangas wrote Big featuring Big Freedia, You were their target audience 4
Quint Posted December 23, 2022 Report Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) Tage has a few patented moves already plus the 105mph (?) shot but I'd like to see him blast away more on faceoff one-timers (if we could develop a good faceoff guy) and use his reach for wraparounds, which I haven't seen yet. Wonder what Perreault thinks? Edited December 23, 2022 by Quint 2
mjd1001 Posted December 25, 2022 Report Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Mario is/was the best player I ever saw play, and I was not a fan of his/Pittsburgh growing up as a kid. I am not old enough to remember Orr, and I only saw Howe when he was a shadow of himself, but including Gretzky, Messier, Coffee, Ovi, Hull, Forsberg, Borque, Jagr, Crosby, McDavid.....NOBODY was as unstoppable as Lemieux was at his peak in my opinion, not even Gretzky. Thompson goes pointless in a game about once every 3 games or so (he has done so 9 times this season, on pace for 20-25 pointless games for the season, which is still great). but to be at Mario's level, he'd have to cut that down to about 15 pointless games TOTAL for the year at most. Edited December 25, 2022 by mjd1001 2
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 25, 2022 Report Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 4:58 PM, mjd1001 said: Mario is/was the best player I ever saw play, and I was not a fan of his/Pittsburgh growing up as a kid. I am not old enough to remember Orr, and I only saw Howe when he was a shadown of himself, but including Gretzky, Messier, Coffee, Ovi, Hull, Forsberg, Borque, Jagr, Crosby, McDavid.....NOBODY was as unstoppable as Lemieux was at his peak in my opinion, not even Gretzky. Thompson goes pointless in a game about once every 3 games or so (he has done so 9 times this season, on pace for 20-25 pointless games for the season, which is still great). but to be at Mario's level, he'd have to cut that down to about 15 pointless games TOTAL for the year at most. Expand We lived in Pittsburgh during their first 2 cups. Mario was at his peak in those years and was unstopable. Those teams were stacked with talent up and down the lineup, but Mario was the guy.
French Collection Posted December 25, 2022 Report Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 4:58 PM, mjd1001 said: Mario is/was the best player I ever saw play, and I was not a fan of his/Pittsburgh growing up as a kid. I am not old enough to remember Orr, and I only saw Howe when he was a shadow of himself, but including Gretzky, Messier, Coffee, Ovi, Hull, Forsberg, Borque, Jagr, Crosby, McDavid.....NOBODY was as unstoppable as Lemieux was at his peak in my opinion, not even Gretzky. Thompson goes pointless in a game about once every 3 games or so (he has done so 9 times this season, on pace for 20-25 pointless games for the season, which is still great). but to be at Mario's level, he'd have to cut that down to about 15 pointless games TOTAL for the year at most. Expand The old debate of Gretzky vs Lemieux will always be there. Gretzky had better health, thanks in part to the protection he was afforded by Semenko, McSorley and the league. This led to his longevity and the all time records. Lemieux had better overall skill and size, the major health issues shut him down often. One on one I would take him vs anybody because you could not get the puck from him. 2
mjd1001 Posted December 25, 2022 Report Posted December 25, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 7:12 PM, French Collection said: The old debate of Gretzky vs Lemieux will always be there. Gretzky had better health, thanks in part to the protection he was afforded by Semenko, McSorley and the league. This led to his longevity and the all time records. Lemieux had better overall skill and size, the major health issues shut him down often. One on one I would take him vs anybody because you could not get the puck from him. Expand Agree. In my lifetime, take every player in the league at their absolute peak, and the only 2 players that were almost unstoppable, that could carry an entire team by themselves were Lemieux and Hasek. I didn't like Lemiuex, but up to this point in life him and Hasek are hands down the best I have ever seen. 3
LGR4GM Posted December 29, 2022 Report Posted December 29, 2022 Okay here is the important line "HockeyViz’s model only gives the average shooter an expected goal total of 23 based on his shot quality." The key words there are "average shooter" so when you see an xGF number it's based on ever shot taken from there and the percentage that go on based on average shooting. The key to remember is Tage isn't an average shooter so he will exceed xgf.
pi2000 Posted December 29, 2022 Report Posted December 29, 2022 On 12/29/2022 at 5:54 PM, LGR4GM said: Okay here is the important line "HockeyViz’s model only gives the average shooter an expected goal total of 23 based on his shot quality." The key words there are "average shooter" so when you see an xGF number it's based on ever shot taken from there and the percentage that go on based on average shooting. The key to remember is Tage isn't an average shooter so he will exceed xgf. Expand 3
Doohickie Posted December 30, 2022 Report Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) He had no points tonight against the WIngs. BUST. Edited December 30, 2022 by Doohickie
shrader Posted December 30, 2022 Report Posted December 30, 2022 On 12/30/2022 at 5:52 AM, Doohickie said: He had points tonight against the WIngs. BUST. Expand You missed a word there.
Doohickie Posted December 30, 2022 Report Posted December 30, 2022 Right you are. Fixed. I was tired. 1
Derrico Posted January 4, 2023 Report Posted January 4, 2023 I’m going to bump this after his hat trick last night.
Marvin Posted January 4, 2023 Report Posted January 4, 2023 On 12/22/2022 at 1:58 AM, Taro T said: Could've sworn he was on Eichel's line most of that final game. Will try to find it. Expand Last 2 games. 1
SDS Posted January 4, 2023 Report Posted January 4, 2023 This month long generic topic that “needed” to be bumped has probably run its course. New, specific topics on Tage are welcomed.
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