matter2003 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Talk about a rapid ascension for Cozens...he has always been a nice two way forward, but his offensive game has hit another level with Quinn and JJP. Within a year or two, this could very well be the best line in the NHL...unlimited potential. With his 3 A's yesterday, he now has 9 G and 15 A in 25 games...nearly a point per game, and likely soon to be more than that pace...only needs 14 points to match his totals from all of last season. Sabres now have 5 players on a 80+ points pace... Edited December 5, 2022 by matter2003 8 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 He is scoring and he is making smarter and better hockey decisions. Last night he could have been goaded into a fight after the game. Instead, he took the win and skated away, all the time making sure his teammates were also out of the fray. We were not playing a division rival so there was no sense in extending the frustration. I see this kid being the power forward we have all dreamed off, and eventually wearing the C. 4 Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 He has been seriously on the upswing since the end of last season into the Worlds..... He has talented young speedy wingers to compliment him. That line is going to be amazing as they all mature Quote
Weave Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 Love to see it, but this is some serious small sample size exuberance. Its a streak. Lets see where it goes. 7 7 Quote
Sidc3000 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Weave said: Love to see it, but this is some serious small sample size exuberance. Its a streak. Lets see where it goes. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, Weave said: Love to see it, but this is some serious small sample size exuberance. Its a streak. Lets see where it goes. I really like the kid and have in the past questioned whether he has the hands to excel at this level. That said, I am really excited to see him proving me wrong and hope he can keep it up. I'd like nothing more than to see him perform at a high level so that people can forget about Trevor Zegras. 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 Tage line: Three virtuosos who can complement each other's solos. Cozens line: A monolithic unit, perfectly in sync at all times. Our top two lines each produced 3 goals last night. But they are very different to play against. The Tage line is just hard to get the puck away from once they get it. Even once they lose the puck their recovery is pretty strong. Cozens line is more about speed and passing. I can see with just a modest boost out of the bottom 6 and decent goaltending that the Sabres could be a handful for any team. I know coming into the season there was some debate over whether Dylan or Mittsy would have a breakout season. We have that answer: Cozens is the pivot on what could soon rival The Perfection Line. 4 Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 56 minutes ago, Weave said: Love to see it, but this is some serious small sample size exuberance. Its a streak. Lets see where it goes. Sure there will be slumps but the overall trajectory of this line is still, and will continue to be, very positive. There is a chemistry and a synergy between these three players that seems to be bootstrapping this line steadily upward. Quote
Curt Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 59 minutes ago, Weave said: Love to see it, but this is some serious small sample size exuberance. It’s a streak. Let’s see where it goes. It’s 1/3 of a season. Still smallish sample, but maybe more than a streak. He certainly doesn’t look like he is just getting lucky out there. Is this the same conversation that we had regarding Thompson halfway through last season? 1 Quote
Mustache of God Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Weave said: Love to see it, but this is some serious small sample size exuberance. Its a streak. Lets see where it goes. That streak is going to end up in all our underpants if the kids keep up the play. 2 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Weave said: Love to see it, but this is some serious small sample size exuberance. Its a streak. Lets see where it goes. The line is terrific, but this is also true. The shortie he scored against DET sticks out in my mind. It was a great play but also a pretty soft goal (that goalie was *leaky* (Samuelsson's first ever NHL goal against the same guy was a howler)). Quote
Taro T Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Curt said: It’s 1/3 of a season. Still smallish sample, but maybe more than a streak. He certainly doesn’t look like he is just getting lucky out there. Is this the same conversation that we had regarding Thompson halfway through last season? Overall, yes, we're ~1/3 of the way through the season. But his (& that entire line's) extremely hot streak really is only ~6 games long. Don't know that they can contine the torrid pace (would be awesome if they can, but that isn't overly realistic), but the WAY they are playing is sustainable. That's what's truly encouraging. They could very realistically have a 60 point player & 2 - 50 pt guys and depending upon just how real the chemistry is maybe average 60+ points each. Which for the NHL's Youngest LineTM, riding 2 rookies is fantastic. Quote
Refuting Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, matter2003 said: Talk about a rapid ascension for Cozens...he has always been a nice two way forward, but his offensive game has hit another level with Quinn and JJP. Within a year or two, this could very well be the best line in the NHL...unlimited potential. With his 3 A's yesterday, he now has 9 G and 15 A in 25 games...nearly a point per game, and likely soon to be more than that pace...only needs 14 points to match his totals from all of last season. Sabres now have 5 players on a 80+ points pace... Lol Quote
Cascade Youth Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 He is “driving play” as they say. 1 Quote
Zamboni Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 Just as fast as this thread went up… As soon as Cozens has a bad stretch of about 5-7 games (that’s all it should take), there will be a thread created how much Cozens sucks and how he should be trade bait 😂 i’m glad he is developing, and hope he continues to develop! The workhorse from Whitehorse… I’m rooting for him! 1 Quote
Weave Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Zamboni said: Just as fast as this thread went up… As soon as Cozens has a bad stretch of about 5-7 games (that’s all it should take), there will be a thread created how much Cozens sucks and how he should be trade bait 😂 i’m glad he is developing, and hope he continues to develop! The workhorse from Whitehorse… I’m rooting for him! It wasn’t that long ago folks here were concerned about Cozens slow start to the season. As Taro mentioned, the en fuego streaks is less than 10 games old. Ligers “Quinn is about to do something “ thread is still a baby. You guys sure do like your roller coasters. 2 2 Quote
Curt Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, Taro T said: Overall, yes, we're ~1/3 of the way through the season. But his (& that entire line's) extremely hot streak really is only ~6 games long. Don't know that they can contine the torrid pace (would be awesome if they can, but that isn't overly realistic), but the WAY they are playing is sustainable. That's what's truly encouraging. They could very realistically have a 60 point player & 2 - 50 pt guys and depending upon just how real the chemistry is maybe average 60+ points each. Which for the NHL's Youngest LineTM, riding 2 rookies is fantastic. Oh, I didn’t realize that you were talking just about the past few games. Yeah, that line has been on fire the past couple weeks. Id be happy if it happens, but I doubt Cozens ends the season with 75+ points. Still, with how good he has been so far, it’s pretty likely that he ends up with 55+, which in itself would be a massive breakout for him. 1 Quote
matter2003 Posted December 5, 2022 Author Report Posted December 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Weave said: It wasn’t that long ago folks here were concerned about Cozens slow start to the season. As Taro mentioned, the en fuego streaks is less than 10 games old. Ligers “Quinn is about to do something “ thread is still a baby. You guys sure do like your roller coasters. Even then, this was the best Corsi line on the team...they were getting a LOT of chances, they just weren't finishing them. Quote
grinreaper Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Weave said: Love to see it, but this is some serious small sample size exuberance. Its a streak. Lets see where it goes. The Sabre's 4th uniform inspired by some guy named Cozens. Quote
matter2003 Posted December 5, 2022 Author Report Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Overall, yes, we're ~1/3 of the way through the season. But his (& that entire line's) extremely hot streak really is only ~6 games long. Don't know that they can contine the torrid pace (would be awesome if they can, but that isn't overly realistic), but the WAY they are playing is sustainable. That's what's truly encouraging. They could very realistically have a 60 point player & 2 - 50 pt guys and depending upon just how real the chemistry is maybe average 60+ points each. Which for the NHL's Youngest LineTM, riding 2 rookies is fantastic. But...again. This line was playing extremely well and generating chances pretty much all season long. Many nights even without scoring early in the year, they were the Sabres best line. This isn't some streak that just happened out of nowhere. They are the teams best Corsi line, they drive play in the offensive zone, and they get lots of chances. The difference is they have been finishing them over the last two weeks, which is what you would expect as the young guys continue to develop during the year. So calling it a streak is a little disingenuous, as if their play doesn't warrant what has happened. In all honestly, not only does it warrant it, they should have more points than they do now if they were finishing chances early in the year. Edited December 5, 2022 by matter2003 Quote
phil_soisson Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 Pairing Cozens with Quinn and Peterka (especially Quinn, who is a sniper), seems to have had a synergistic effect. These guys are assertive; there doesn't seem to be any hesitation when it comes to taking the shot, unlike a guy like Krebs, who looks to pass rather than put the puck on net. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, matter2003 said: But...again. This line was playing extremely well and generating chances pretty much all season long. Many nights even without scoring early in the year, they were the Sabres best line. This isn't some streak that just happened out of nowhere. They are the teams best Corsi line, they drive play in the offensive zone, and they get lots of chances. The difference is they have been finishing them over the last two weeks, which is what you would expect as the young guys continue to develop during the year. So calling it a streak is a little disingenuous, as if their play doesn't warrant what has happened. In all honestly, not only does it warrant it, they should have more points than they do now if they were finishing chances early in the year. What part of "the WAY they are playing is sustainable; (t)hat's what's truly encouraging" is the disingenuous part? There is nothing disingenuous there nor the rest of the post, really don't appreciate the allegation. That said, the combination of the current streak which IMHO really ignited when Quinn gave Cozens that glorious feed for him to bury the slapper late in the 3rd after getting snake bit for quite some time along with those times they weren't scoring has them on (roughly, am not bothering w/ the exact calculations) 70, 50, & 50 point paces. Over the full season, the 70 probably isn't sustainable & the 50's likely are. Now that the team has 2 legit scoring lines, wouldn't be surprised to see the team start facing # 1's more often especially if the opponent doesn't have btb's. That will likely cool them off a little as will other teams treating them w/ the respect their current streak warrants rather than as the 3rd scoring line which they officially were until recently. Would love to see Cozens get 90 & the other 2 at a ppg. But, at this moment in time it isn't realistic to expect it. And not expecting it doesn't mean the new sweater is going in the dumpster. Edited December 5, 2022 by Taro T Quote
JustOneParade Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, matter2003 said: So, based on their ages this will still be an appropriate comparison to make next year as well. 👍 Quote
JustOneParade Posted December 5, 2022 Report Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JustOneParade said: I put my comment in the wrong place so let me try again .... So, based on their ages this will still be an appropriate comparison to make next year as well. 👍 Edited December 5, 2022 by JustOneParade Having a bad day ... 1 Quote
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