Sabres (and NHL?) ROY Race!

[GASabresIUFAN]

Basic Stats 

Quinn - 20 gp 6g 8a 14 pts +5  13:20 ATOI   After not scoring in his first 4 games, has 14 pts in his last 16 games, and 3g 2a in his last 4 games.

JJP - 26 gp 6g 8a 14 ps +3 14:14 ATOI  Now has pts in 4 straight (1g 3a) and 6pts in his last 7 games.

Power - 25 gp 0g 10a 10 pts +6  23:38 ATOI

Beniers leads all forwards with 21 pts in 24 gp and has a 17:04 ATOI. Also leads in p/gp at .88

Calen Addison is leading D scorer with 2g 12a but is -9 and is only skating 16 minutes a nught

Perfetti and Maccelli have 16 pts each.  JJP and Quinn are tied for 4th in scoring among rookies.  Macelli is second in P/GP at .80 and Quinn 3rd at .70

Power leads all rookies in ATOI with Sanderson second at 21:04.  Jake also has 1g and 10a.  Guhle is 3rd at 20:22 with 1g and 8a but a -9.

Beniers 10  goals leads at rookies followed by Pinto with 9, Wyatt Johnson with 7, then Quinn, JJP and Kent Johnson with 6. 

Maccelli's 14a leads all rookies, followed by Perfetti & Addison with 12, Beniers with 11 and then Power and Sanderson with 1.

Another rookie to watch is NJ's Fabian Zetterlund with 20GP 5G 8A 13pts and a +12.

If balloted today, who wins the NHL ROY and who wins the Sabres ROY?

My NHL ballot (if I had one) right now would be:

1) Beniers

2) Power

3) Sanderson

4) Perfetti

5) Quinn

Still anyone's chance.  After Beniers their are 10 forwards with 10 to 16 pts.  On D there are 3 D skating 20 minutes a night plus and 4 with 9 to 14 pts.

[GASabresIUFAN]

One other note: Against TB the other night JJP and Power assisted on Quinn's goal.  I don't remember 3 rookies combining on a goal.  I'm sure it's happened before.  Anyone remember another 3 rookie goal?

[Taro T]

6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Basic Stats 

Quinn - 20 gp 6g 8a 14 pts +5  13:20 ATOI   After not scoring in his first 4 games, has 14 pts in his last 16 games, and 3g 2a in his last 4 games.

JJP - 26 gp 6g 8a 14 ps +3 14:14 ATOI  Now has pts in 4 straight (1g 3a) and 6pts in his last 7 games.

Power - 25 gp 0g 10a 10 pts +6  23:38 ATOI

Beniers leads all forwards with 21 pts in 24 gp and has a 17:04 ATOI. Also leads in p/gp at .88

Calen Addison is leading D scorer with 2g 12a but is -9 and is only skating 16 minutes a nught

Perfetti and Maccelli have 16 pts each.  JJP and Quinn are tied for 4th in scoring among rookies.  Macelli is second in P/GP at .80 and Quinn 3rd at .70

Power leads all rookies in ATOI with Sanderson second at 21:04.  Jake also has 1g and 10a.  Guhle is 3rd at 20:22 with 1g and 8a but a -9.

Beniers 10  goals leads at rookies followed by Pinto with 9, Wyatt Johnson with 7, then Quinn, JJP and Kent Johnson with 6. 

Maccelli's 14a leads all rookies, followed by Perfetti & Addison with 12, Beniers with 11 and then Power and Sanderson with 1.

Another rookie to watch is NJ's Fabian Zetterlund with 20GP 5G 8A 13pts and a +12.

If balloted today, who wins the NHL ROY and who wins the Sabres ROY?

My NHL ballot (if I had one) right now would be:

1) Beniers

2) Power

3) Sanderson

4) Perfetti

5) Quinn

Still anyone's chance.  After Beniers their are 10 forwards with 10 to 16 pts.  On D there are 3 D skating 20 minutes a night plus and 4 with 9 to 14 pts.

Still believe Power will be a finalist and that both Quinn & Peterka will cannibalize votes from each other & end up top 10 in the voting but neither as a serious contender.

Beniers will be tough to beat, but if the Sabres start to get into the playoff race, Power might edge him out again.  😉

[PerreaultForever]

Unless something drastically changes it's going to be Beniers. Defensemen have a hard time beating forwards in any event and Beniers, for the bright and shiny new franchise is the kind of things the league likes. 

Power is a different type of player, but as much as Quinn and Peterka have shown growth and promise lately they are not in Beniers class yet. Not even close. 

[LGR4GM]

Jack Quinn is still warming up. He'll end up top 3 in voting

[Taro T]

3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Jack Quinn is still warming up. He'll end up top 3 in voting

Would be great if he does.  And believe he'll earn that. 

Still expect Peterka to pull too many votes from him for him to get that high.  (Plus he has to deal w/ the bias some voters will have against voting for Power & another Sabre.  An issue Power also shares.)  And, to a degree it'll be disappointing if Peterka doesn't cannibalize some of Jack's votes because that'll indicate that he didn't improve as much as it looks like he can and should.  He was playing substantially better than Quinn by the playoffs last year.  Might've been Quinn running out of gas or dealing w/ an unreported injury, but JJ really brought it last spring. 

Now, if the Sabres are in the playoff mix, that bias against multiple players from the same team can be overcome because those 3 rookies will all be a huge part of the narrative.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

My bold prediction based on gut feel for how the season will progress ...

1)  Power

2)  Beniers

3)  Quinn

[matter2003]

12 hours ago, Taro T said:

Still believe Power will be a finalist and that both Quinn & Peterka will cannibalize votes from each other & end up top 10 in the voting but neither as a serious contender.

Beniers will be tough to beat, but if the Sabres start to get into the playoff race, Power might edge him out again.  😉

I am expecting the points pace for JJP and Quinn to pick up exponentially as the season goes on.  Many nights, that is our best line, which is scary when we have Tuch-Thompson-Skinner as well. Even before they were getting on the scoresheet consistently, the QPC Home Shopping Network Line was getting glorious scoring chances most nights, just not burying them.  That has started to change.  Lookout.

Edited December 5, 2022 by matter2003

[Taro T]

48 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

I am expecting the points pace for JJP and Quinn to pick up exponentially as the season goes on.  Many nights, that is our best line, which is scary when we have Tuch-Thompson-Skinner as well. Even before they were getting on the scoresheet consistently, the QPC Home Shopping Network Line was getting glorious scoring chances most nights, just not burying them.  That has started to change.  Lookout.

Those 2 pretty much are the analogs to Roy & Pominville from '05-'06.  (Too bad UPL is no Miller.)

They're on pace for upper 40's points wise.  Hoping both are in the 50's & it would be great to see 1 or both in the 60's.  Is that what you're considering exponential or are you seeing 70's or even 80's?

If the both end up there the Sabres would almost have to be in the playoffs mix (though not necessarily in), right?  Would love to see it.

[matter2003]

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

Those 2 pretty much are the analogs to Roy & Pominville from '05-'06.  (Too bad UPL is no Miller.)

They're on pace for upper 40's points wise.  Hoping both are in the 50's & it would be great to see 1 or both in the 60's.  Is that what you're considering exponential or are you seeing 70's or even 80's?

If the both end up there the Sabres would almost have to be in the playoffs mix (though not necessarily in), right?  Would love to see it.

I am expecting the pace Quinn/JJP scoring to pick up...especially Quinn...I think he could be a Vanek level sniper.

[Taro T]

20 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

I am expecting the pace Quinn/JJP scoring to pick up...especially Quinn...I think he could be a Vanek level sniper.

Yes, we agree that you expect their scoring to pick up.  The question was by how much?

And just for reference, Vanek had 25 goals & 48 points his rookie year.