Owen Power Did Something Incredible Tonight

[kas23]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

I don't know what that means

I think it means Power had a good game. Sometimes players have great games 

[nucci]

5 minutes ago, kas23 said:

I think it means Power had a good game. Sometimes players have great games 

I can tell by watching if he has a good game or not

[WhenWillItEnd66]

Ok, so all these magical stats do not mean crap as our defensive positioning and goaltending really really suck!!! 

[SwampD]

11 hours ago, Thorny said:

Seriously asking: 

Has anyone noticed that his helmet is always slightly tilted to the side? 

You would think that in this day and age of hockey technology, they would have come up with a way to deal with flow by now.

[sabresparaavida]

3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

 

EV means even strength and xGF is expected goals for. So they are looking at his xGF% (so xGF and xGA divided) which helps us understand what happens when Owen Power is on the ice. The short version is that in all the years they have data that attempts to count up expected goals, Owen Power last night finished with the highest xGF% divded by TOI (60min) of any player going back to 2007. 

"We were referencing his on-ice xGF (total xG of unblocked shots taken for Buffalo while Power was on the ice)."

While Owen Power is on the ice his team generates significantly more offense than they give up. xGA/xGF per 60 minutes of TOI. 

you have to divide. xGA/xGF

EDIT: Oh I see what you mean, idk about that. 

They were primarily looking at his xGF, not the xGF%. He had the highest xGF at even strength when he was on the ice of the past 15+ years, but he also let up a decent amount of chances. Of that list of the 10 highest xGF of the past 15 years, Power had the highest xGA, and the expected difference was the second lowest in the list.

[Huckleberry]

I keep saying Dahlin + Power =  Niedermayer + Pronger 🙂

[Pimlach]

What all this means is that our best players, the ones that look like they do more good things than bad, all have good fancy stats too.  

 

Now get more good players KA, hurry!  

[Claude Balls]

19 hours ago, Thorny said:

Seriously asking: 

Has anyone noticed that his helmet is always slightly tilted to the side? 

Maybe his helmet is straight and his face is ***** up?

[Huckleberry]

[Doohicksie]

13 hours ago, Claude Balls said:

Maybe his helmet is straight and his face is ***** up?

I worry about players with asymmetrical faces; they never amount to much.

[GASabresIUFAN]

So what do the fancy stats say about our over 23 D and our goaltending?

They probably say the same thing they said last year.

 

[bob_sauve28]

22 hours ago, nucci said:

I can tell by watching if he has a good game or not

Yup, and he does look awesome out there. And we have him for years!! 

[Pimlach]

22 hours ago, nucci said:

I can tell by watching if he has a good game or not

He was not incredible.  His game was just ok.  He was out there for that painful 4th Tampa goal though.  He was not good enough to overcome our 3rd line. 
 

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Pimlach

[Stoner]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

He was not incredible.  His game was just ok.  He was out there for that painful 4th Tampa goal though.  He was not good enough to overcome our 3rd line. 
 

 

In glancing at the Twitter comments, it looks like even fellow analytics peeps cast shade on the incredulity. Still it's amazing to me that whatever concocted stat that was can be used to evaluate someone's night. These people know literally nothing about hockey.

[bunomatic]

13 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

In glancing at the Twitter comments, it looks like even fellow analytics peeps cast shade on the incredulity. Still it's amazing to me that whatever concocted stat that was can be used to evaluate someone's night. These people know literally nothing about hockey.

Yes and I’ve noticed that they totally ignore EG/STI.

[Pimlach]

25 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

In glancing at the Twitter comments, it looks like even fellow analytics peeps cast shade on the incredulity. Still it's amazing to me that whatever concocted stat that was can be used to evaluate someone's night. These people know literally nothing about hockey.

Do not misinterpret my comments, which are aimed more about describing his play as incredible on that night. 

I think Power is doing great.  He is hockey mature beyond his years.  He is patient and plays heads up hockey.  All that said, he did nothing incredible in that game.   He was his usual solid self.   

His great new statistic is nice - but incredible play to me means tangible plays that make the difference between winning and losing.  

 

[That Aud Smell]

I read through the thread.

This is a fun stat to contemplate.

The thing that I remember about Power from that game: How he panicked a bit at the very end of the game and needlessly turned a risky clearance into a 2-minute minor (from the replay, you could see that he had more time and space than he realized). The Sabres survived that power play, thankfully.