Crusader1969 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Brawndo said: This is Schenn’s Agent. Based on His Contract and the fact that Ben Chiarot pulled a 1st at the TDL, the Canucks are going to probably get a 2023 First. Yikes. That rules the Sabres out. 3 Quote
thewookie1 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Yikes. That rules the Sabres out. Pretty much, that's the hockey equivalent to political suicide 1 Quote
pi2000 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 My targets (top 25 TRPM).... ============================================================== exp+/- is a function of %min played at ES and team ES goal diff TRpm(team relative +/-) is the diff btwn actual+/- and exp+/- %min is % of ES minutes played ============================================================== Team Player TRpm GP +/- exp+/- %min FLA Josh Mahura 13.84 27 17 3.16 28.7 DET Filip Hronek 12.08 26 11 -1.08 35.9 DET Olli Maatta 12.05 25 11 -1.05 34.8 STL Calle Rosen 11.59 17 9 -2.59 16.2 ARI Nick Bjugstad 11.00 24 6 -5.00 27.8 SEA Morgan Geekie 10.83 19 13 2.17 12.1 BUF Mattias Samuelsson 10.65 13 11 0.35 17.4 STL Niko Mikkola 10.30 26 6 -4.30 26.9 PIT Rickard Rakell 10.30 26 14 3.70 30.8 SEA Brandon Tanev 9.43 25 14 4.57 25.4 PHI Nick Seeler 9.43 27 5 -4.43 27.7 BOS Hampus Lindholm 9.43 25 23 13.57 38.8 BUF Rasmus Dahlin 9.23 25 10 0.77 38.7 PIT Pierre-Olivier Joseph 9.16 22 12 2.84 23.7 BUF Owen Power 9.15 26 10 0.85 42.4 DET Jordan Oesterle 8.56 16 8 -0.56 18.6 BUF Jeff Skinner 8.46 26 9 0.54 27.2 ARI Christian Fischer 7.78 24 3 -4.78 26.5 BOS Trent Frederic 7.52 22 14 6.48 18.5 BUF Alex Tuch 7.45 26 8 0.55 27.5 DET Jake Walman 7.35 10 7 -0.35 11.8 PIT Jan Rutta 6.64 26 10 3.36 28.0 FLA Anton Lundell 6.59 24 9 2.41 21.9 ARI Jakob Chychrun 6.44 8 4 -2.44 13.6 BUF Tage Thompson 6.43 26 7 0.57 28.5 Quote
Taro T Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, pi2000 said: My targets (top 25 TRPM).... ============================================================== exp+/- is a function of %min played at ES and team ES goal diff TRpm(team relative +/-) is the diff btwn actual+/- and exp+/- %min is % of ES minutes played ============================================================== Team Player TRpm GP +/- exp+/- %min FLA Josh Mahura 13.84 27 17 3.16 28.7 DET Filip Hronek 12.08 26 11 -1.08 35.9 DET Olli Maatta 12.05 25 11 -1.05 34.8 STL Calle Rosen 11.59 17 9 -2.59 16.2 ARI Nick Bjugstad 11.00 24 6 -5.00 27.8 SEA Morgan Geekie 10.83 19 13 2.17 12.1 BUF Mattias Samuelsson 10.65 13 11 0.35 17.4 STL Niko Mikkola 10.30 26 6 -4.30 26.9 PIT Rickard Rakell 10.30 26 14 3.70 30.8 SEA Brandon Tanev 9.43 25 14 4.57 25.4 PHI Nick Seeler 9.43 27 5 -4.43 27.7 BOS Hampus Lindholm 9.43 25 23 13.57 38.8 BUF Rasmus Dahlin 9.23 25 10 0.77 38.7 PIT Pierre-Olivier Joseph 9.16 22 12 2.84 23.7 BUF Owen Power 9.15 26 10 0.85 42.4 DET Jordan Oesterle 8.56 16 8 -0.56 18.6 BUF Jeff Skinner 8.46 26 9 0.54 27.2 ARI Christian Fischer 7.78 24 3 -4.78 26.5 BOS Trent Frederic 7.52 22 14 6.48 18.5 BUF Alex Tuch 7.45 26 8 0.55 27.5 DET Jake Walman 7.35 10 7 -0.35 11.8 PIT Jan Rutta 6.64 26 10 3.36 28.0 FLA Anton Lundell 6.59 24 9 2.41 21.9 ARI Jakob Chychrun 6.44 8 4 -2.44 13.6 BUF Tage Thompson 6.43 26 7 0.57 28.5 There's 5 guys on that list they should be able to land for the right deal. What you offering? 😉 1 1 Quote
Thorner Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Taro T said: There's 5 guys on that list they should be able to land for the right deal. What you offering? 😉 6 3 Quote
pastajoe Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 Kevin Adams was on Sabres Live today. Said they’re sticking to the plan. So don’t expect any game changing trades this year. 5 Quote
Zamboni Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, pastajoe said: Kevin Adams was on Sabres Live today. Said they’re sticking to the plan. So don’t expect any game changing trades this year. In other news. Water is wet. I certainly don’t expect him to telegraph any moves to media. Who honestly does? And I certainly don’t expect him to stray from his plan because some vocal minority of fans stomp their feet and want it. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 7 hours ago, pastajoe said: Kevin Adams was on Sabres Live today. Said they’re sticking to the plan. So don’t expect any game changing trades this year. Translation: KA won’t do anything this season to help the team make the playoffs this season. Oh well! 2 Quote
Marvin Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 8 hours ago, pastajoe said: Kevin Adams was on Sabres Live today. Said they’re sticking to the plan. So don’t expect any game changing trades this year. The funny thing is that a trade for a better 3 LHD is not likely to be pricey. The only thing I can think of is that he wants Bryson, Fitzgerald, and Pilut to play all season to see what they have, come hell or high water. IMHO, the team is close to the playoffs, it should not be much of an ask to forego the alleged development we will get for the existing trio in favour of an upgrade. If nothing else, I would prefer Clague-Lyubushkin as our 3rd D pair. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 8 hours ago, pastajoe said: Kevin Adams was on Sabres Live today. Said they’re sticking to the plan. So don’t expect any game changing trades this year. Did he elaborate on what "the plan" actually is? I know it's all about people who want to be here and the draft etc. but what's the timeline, that's my question. It all seems a bit vague. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Did he elaborate on what "the plan" actually is? I know it's all about people who want to be here and the draft etc. but what's the timeline, that's my question. It all seems a bit vague. It’s called “Waiting for Levi”. 1 1 Quote
bunomatic Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 Imagine the development they’d get from a round or two of the playoffs. KAs all wet. The franchise, the players, the staff, the city, and the fans are all jonesing for the playoffs. It would be immeasurable in terms of development to get there early as opposed to a hard line in the sand at some arbitrary point in the future inside KAs head. 2 1 Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 15 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: Yikes. That rules the Sabres out. I wouldn’t trade for Luke Schenn he’s garbage Quote
FrenchConnection44 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) On 12/7/2022 at 10:33 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: Schenn has no trade protection. He doesn’t get to approve a trade. If Van trades him to us, he is going to play for us. I think what confused the response to your prior post is the wording “Schenn has ‘no trade protection’” which makes it sound like he has a “no trade clause protection” as that is the common wording. Schenn doesn’t have a ‘no trade clause’ in his contract is what you’re saying. As to whether we want to make that deal … Schenn is 33 and a UFA next year. No one is going to give up much for him. Unless they see themselves as a legit Cup contender. I can’t see anyone giving up a first for him. Especially in this next draft. But who knows … He is definitely a target but esp in the off season. But the guy I really want off Vancouver is Bo Horvat. I’d go all in for him in free agency absolutely the kind of player we need. 27. A captain. An excellent two way center with size and an edge. We add Horvat, a strong defensive defenseman and that’s a team that has firepower to contend. And with our youth we have the money to spend - we are $17 million below the cap this year and expected to be $32 million below the cap next year. While we will have to lock up some young players the next 2-3 years, we still have plenty of spending power. Edited December 10, 2022 by FrenchConnection44 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 7 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said: I wouldn’t trade for Luke Schenn he’s garbage This tells me you aren’t paying attention at all. 1 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 7 hours ago, FrenchConnection44 said: I think what confused the response to your prior post is the wording “Schenn has ‘no trade protection’” which makes it sound like he has a “no trade clause protection” as that is the common wording. Schenn doesn’t have a ‘no trade clause’ in his contract is what you’re saying. As to whether we want to make that deal … Schenn is 33 and a UFA next year. No one is going to give up much for him. Unless they see themselves as a legit Cup contender. I can’t see anyone giving up a first for him. Especially in this next draft. But who knows … He is definitely a target but esp in the off season. But the guy I really want off Vancouver is Bo Horvat. I’d go all in for him in free agency absolutely the kind of player we need. 27. A captain. An excellent two way center with size and an edge. We add Horvat, a strong defensive defenseman and that’s a team that has firepower to contend. And with our youth we have the money to spend - we are $17 million below the cap this year and expected to be $32 million below the cap next year. While we will have to lock up some young players the next 2-3 years, we still have plenty of spending power. Love the idea of Horvat but think it’s highly unlikely. Sabres and locked in with Thompson and Cozens as centers 1 & 2. I can’t see them spending the money on a 3C that it would take to get Horvat I don’t see them spending big money on anyone until Cozens , Dahlin and Power are locked in long term. May even add JJ and Quinn to this list 1 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 13 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: It’s called “Waiting for Levi”. Unfortunately it very well might be. That makes it a very long plan. Too long imo. 1 Quote
sweetlou Posted December 26, 2022 Author Report Posted December 26, 2022 Time to revisit thread since we have started to see some separation in the standings. My new list of ideas... Chicago- Max Domi- could be a good 3rd line center, plays with an edge. UFA after this year but could stay longer if he likes the fit. Close to his family and friends which is important to him considering his comments about Columbus. Connor Murphy- Good top four defenseman with 3 years left on contract at $4.4 million. I'd rather have him than Chyrchrun. Columbus- Vladislav Gavrikov- How good would a 3rd defense pairing of Gavrikov and Boosh look? Anaheim- Simon Benoit- still like this kid as 3rd pairing LD Vancouver- Luke Schenn- good RD who plays defensively responsible and physical Nashville- Tanner Jeannot- good two way physical winger, showed scoring glimpse last year but has not duplicated it this year. Colton Scissons- good 3rd line center 4 Quote
#freejame Posted December 29, 2022 Report Posted December 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Chris Drury 1 4 Quote
Mr. Allen Posted December 29, 2022 Report Posted December 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Rangers will want a lot for him. Way too much. But I actually think he would fit in nicely here. Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 29, 2022 Report Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. Allen said: Rangers will want a lot for him. Way too much. But I actually think he would fit in nicely here. They probably want Dahlin, Thompson, Quinn, and our 2023 1st 5 Quote
Buffalonill Posted December 30, 2022 Report Posted December 30, 2022 18 hours ago, Doohickie said: Lafreniere reminds me of grigorenko overhyped prospect Quote
thewookie1 Posted December 30, 2022 Report Posted December 30, 2022 Two proposals I came up with; the 1st actually garnered serious interest Olofsson & a 2023 2nd for a team’s Top 10 protected 1st. For a Western team in need of a PP specialist; especially if they have confidence they’ll make the playoffs, this would be an easy trade as they are merely moving down in the draft to acquire a player. One I came up with was Olofsson(50%) & BUF’s 2nd to WPG for their Top 10 Protected 1st and their 2024 4th. The second trade I came up with was Bryson, Johnson and VGK’s 2nd for Roy from LAK Quote
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